No push button start a good thing?

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

I wouldn't consider this an absolute truth just yet. Hopefully we get accurate specs and pricing in January so a lot of these threads can stop going in circles

True, I should have said "Based on the rumors so far..."

But the point still stands.. based on what we think we know, that is a true enough statement.. I can't see all that many people bothering to dash/windshield mount a phone on a car with nav included.

[86'd]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Hey at $22k I can understand that the FRS is stripped like it is. It's the Toyota 86 low-spec with the white tach and a radio. Perfect for a base car. I am ok with that. But Scion just let me add options. But Scion if you base this car at $25k...I don't know...Its still going to sell but I think at that price it should include more standard equipment. I look at all the other Scions and they are all well equipped. Its actually amazing at how much standard equipment you get in the tC.

Just give me the option to pay for what I want.

But Scion thanks for making this car.

[LSxJunkie]

I have had Toyota Smartkeys on an IS250, IS350, and my RX. Let me tell you how nice it is to walk up to the car and have it unlock by just grabbing the door handle with my hands full of groceries in 25 degree weather or in the rain. Frankly, this convenience is nice on any car, be it a 55k Lexus or an 25k Scion. Most of you will do 99% of your driving on the street, where creature comforts are certainly not a detriment.

Originally Posted by Longhorn248

If you're concerned about the push button adding weight don't have a doughnut in the morning and it will be like removing the push button

This. If the 1/4lb difference really matters to you, don't wear socks.

Originally Posted by Torquesteered

Push button start and a smart key type setup are not the same thing. If you live somewhere that has a serious winter a smart key is awesome. Keyhole locks freeze, and fiddling with keys when its cold and windy sucks. The key never has to leave your pocket and you can still open any door or start the car, not a silly option for a DD. Not all premium options are fluff, calm down and think a little. Some people want these type options, they are not dumb because they do.

Wow, someone being reasonable.

Originally Posted by 3scapist

Yes, sports cars are meant to be just that, sports cars, and real sports cars don't have all that luxurious crap. If you want luxury, buy a luxury sedan. This is why I respect Porsche and Lotus so much. They know how to make a TRUE sports car. No carpets, no radio, no bs heated seats or mirrors, just a pure fun drivers car. Toyota and Subaru should have thought about that when making this car. I guess they kinda did considering the Scion/Toyota is more of a drivers car and the Subaru is a point A to B car......

Yea I said it, /thread

Nav, heated seats, dual-zone climate control, carpet, floor mats, smart key optional...

Any other arguments you want me to invalidate?

[SL]

Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

I have had Toyota Smartkeys on an IS250, IS350, and my RX. Let me tell you how nice it is to walk up to the car and have it unlock by just grabbing the door handle with my hands full of groceries in 25 degree weather or in the rain. Frankly, this convenience is nice on any car, be it a 55k Lexus or an 25k Scion. Most of you will do 99% of your driving on the street, where creature comforts are certainly not a detriment.

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Nav, heated seats, dual-zone climate control, carpet, floor mats, smart key optional...

Any other arguments you want me to invalidate?

I've had keyless entry/push start on a couple of previous motors and it is a blessing..
i have half that at the moment with my weekend toy, S2000 (that alot of you seem to want with button AND key?!), and whilst pushing the start button is nice.. it feels silly because ive already gone through the polava of having to fish out my keys, button press, find the key slot.. a bit silly really.

Key less entry/push start is awesome, whilst freezing locks isnt something i worry about, it rains alot in the UK.. and as above having the door or boot unlock for me when i put my hand to open is a blessing.. no having to fish around for bl**dy keys when my hands are full with shopping etc.

ordered my GT86 fully loaded, smart entry / dual zone A/C is standard in uk, but also got the Navi, heated seats and flappy paddles coming .. CANNOT WAIT! .. whilst a bare min spec may be 1/4sec quicker round the track as its fractionally lighter .. i'll be the one saving precious seconds getting in to the car and out of sight before many have even found the keys!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by SL

I've had keyless entry/push start on a couple of previous motors and it is a blessing..
i have half that at the moment with my weekend toy, S2000 (that alot of you seem to want with button AND key?!), and whilst pushing the start button is nice.. it feels silly because ive already gone through the polava of having to fish out my keys, button press, find the key slot.. a bit silly really.

Key less entry/push start is awesome, whilst freezing locks isnt something i worry about, it rains alot in the UK.. and as above having the door or boot unlock for me when i put my hand to open is a blessing.. no having to fish around for bl**dy keys when my hands are full with shopping etc.

ordered my GT86 fully loaded, smart entry / dual zone A/C is standard in uk, but also got the Navi, heated seats and flappy paddles coming .. CANNOT WAIT! .. whilst a bare min spec may be 1/4sec quicker round the track as its fractionally lighter .. i'll be the one saving precious seconds getting in to the car and out of sight before many have even found the keys!

Congrats! That's how I would spec my car, but with the 6 speed manual and no Navi. Navi is too much tech bro! LOL!

But I like your setup, it's a drivers car setup!

The S2000 had a messed up version of the Start Button. The new cars have no keys. The FRS version has no keys and you just walk up to the car and it auto unlocks and you get it and you press the start button to start the car. Now how cool and freaking convenient is that?

This and the Auto AC is the only high tech that is in the car. (I ain't counting the optional Navigation system) Just perfect and still a drivers car.

A poor mans LFA....the FRS\BRZ\86 is...:happy0180:

[LSxJunkie]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Congrats! That's how I would spec my car, but with the 6 speed manual and no Navi. Navi is too much tech bro! LOL!

But I like your setup, it's a drivers car setup!

The S2000 had a messed up version of the Start Button. The new cars have no keys. The FRS version has no keys and you just walk up to the car and it auto unlocks and you get it and you press the start button to start the car. Now how cool and freaking convenient is that?

This and the Auto AC is the only high tech that is in the car. (I ain't counting the optional Navigation system) Just perfect and still a drivers car.

A poor mans LFA....the FRS\BRZ\86 is...:happy0180:

It has not been confirmed that the FRS will be getting Smart Keys at all. From what we've seen, they'll only be available on the BRZ Limited, which is significantly more expensive than an entry level FRS. However, this is all speculation.