lowering springs - if you did it tell me more..

[kALMIGHTY]

I'm thinking of going with TRD springs when they are finally available. I heard with the install and alignment, they're almost $400. Wondering if they'll provide spacers to make it more flush?
I've seen lowered FR-S's here and I hate the way they look with the stock wheels because the rear wheels go so far inside the fender well. If I'm going to lower mine, it HAS to be a perfect look.

[ZionsWrath]

Spring plus install and alignment for 400$ is a crackhead price.

If you want spacers you'll have to buy them.

If you want a perfect stance you'll probably need staggered wheels. I think the closest you can get to perfect with square wheels is 9" and offset ~38-42.

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by *KID*

so many brands and great companys, Im also stuck on which to go with:

1. RCE
2. Swift
3. MachV

In no specific order cause they all seem great to me, the only thing that worries me is sagging with time like Tein.

what has the least drop?

[hanabie]

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

what has the least drop?

RCE

[448hpsti]

so its RCE or TRD for wifes car...

likely the yellows

[hanabie]

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

so its RCE or TRD for wifes car...

likely the yellows

eibach pro kit would do the job well.

[Thongpocket]

People who say shocks don't last as long on a lowered car are idiots. Our shocks have a valve that allows gas and and out from a larger "tube" to a smaller "tube," Because a car is lowered and shock piston sits lower this does not affect the valve in any way. Gas can still travel in between the "tubes" just as it did before. I have had springs only on MANY stock shocked cars and never seen a suspension failure. My old 95 civic is still on sport lines after this many years and 100's of thousands of miles the stock shocks still work at an acceptable level. People always assume that spending more money equals a better product. But... how many companies are in the world than actually make springs? Or shocks? Or shock pistons? A few but unbeknownst to most, alot of the parts in high end coilovers are all made in the same facility on the same machines with the same metals. Yes the spring rates and design might be different, but its not like night and day. Coilovers are great if you autox or race a good part of the time. But otherwise they are useless on the street unless you just wanna have them for adjustability or bling factor. 0.02

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by Thongpocket

People who say shocks don't last as long on a lowered car are idiots. Our shocks have a valve that allows gas and and out from a larger "tube" to a smaller "tube," Because a car is lowered and shock piston sits lower this does not affect the valve in any way. Gas can still travel in between the "tubes" just as it did before. I have had springs only on MANY stock shocked cars and never seen a suspension failure. My old 95 civic is still on sport lines after this many years and 100's of thousands of miles the stock shocks still work at an acceptable level. People always assume that spending more money equals a better product. But... how many companies are in the world than actually make springs? Or shocks? Or shock pistons? A few but unbeknownst to most, alot of the parts in high end coilovers are all made in the same facility on the same machines with the same metals. Yes the spring rates and design might be different, but its not like night and day. Coilovers are great if you autox or race a good part of the time. But otherwise they are useless on the street unless you just wanna have them for adjustability or bling factor. 0.02

Likely true in aspects spoken. However no lowering spring magically gives you clearance to run wider wheels which a coil over does. I have pro kit eibachs, ride fine however in wanting to run larger wheels coil overs are only route.

If they had only made this car an inch lower to begin with I'm sure the options would be half or less in the suspension world for this car...

Also a good quality coil over setup right is pretty amazing actually. I've riden in a few experienced guys setups and was very impressed. So wouldn't say they're just for show even for street.

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by Thongpocket

People who say shocks don't last as long on a lowered car are idiots. Our shocks have a valve that allows gas and and out from a larger "tube" to a smaller "tube," Because a car is lowered and shock piston sits lower this does not affect the valve in any way. Gas can still travel in between the "tubes" just as it did before. I have had springs only on MANY stock shocked cars and never seen a suspension failure. My old 95 civic is still on sport lines after this many years and 100's of thousands of miles the stock shocks still work at an acceptable level. People always assume that spending more money equals a better product. But... how many companies are in the world than actually make springs? Or shocks? Or shock pistons? A few but unbeknownst to most, alot of the parts in high end coilovers are all made in the same facility on the same machines with the same metals. Yes the spring rates and design might be different, but its not like night and day. Coilovers are great if you autox or race a good part of the time. But otherwise they are useless on the street unless you just wanna have them for adjustability or bling factor. 0.02

I have koni race setup on one car, and ran the oe shocks for a while, and suspect you've rebuild a few shocks in your time as have I from your post.

It's not true the oe shocks like being lowered, also not true that gas flowing between the tubes is what dampens your car. Gas charging is for anti foaming not dampening, these aren't air shocks like on your mountain bike.

Yes, all the china coil overs all come from same shop, not so with koni, or kw, thesevare made in house, sorry, I just don't shop tein or bc, or Megan etc. I buy koni, bilsteins or fox depending on application, can't justify ohlins dollars. I prefer oe over china setups and am. Function >form type.


I disagree with useless on the street this depends on who you are where you live and how you drive.


There is a night and day difference between the way the car rides on the street, I do nothing to my cars ever for bling.

[cslntuee]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

With a normal drop though you should not need toe links to get a good alignment. Just the camber bushings or LCAs should be fine.

- Andrew

HI,

I plan to buy the lower spring for my BRZ. (only plan for the normal drop and use the stock struts)

What the additional products that I need to buy other than the spring when

I do the alignment?

Could you give me one suggestion list with brand including front and rear?

Do I need to cut the OEM bump stops or I need to buy a new one? Any suggestion which should buy?

How about the headlight level?

Thanks a lot.

[cslntuee]

Originally Posted by cslntuee

HI,

I plan to buy the lower spring for my BRZ. (only plan for the normal drop and use the stock struts)

What the additional products that I need to buy other than the spring when

I do the alignment?

Could you give me one suggestion list with brand including front and rear?

Do I need to cut the OEM bump stops or I need to buy a new one? Any suggestion which should buy?

How about the headlight level?

Thanks a lot.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[red-frsky]

Originally Posted by cslntuee

HI,

I plan to buy the lower spring for my BRZ. (only plan for the normal drop and use the stock struts)

What the additional products that I need to buy other than the spring when

I do the alignment?

Could you give me one suggestion list with brand including front and rear?

Do I need to cut the OEM bump stops or I need to buy a new one? Any suggestion which should buy?

How about the headlight level?

Thanks a lot.

Buy quality rear lower control arms that will fix your uneven camber in the rear, i bought spc arms and they are really weak but i got what i paid for.

Springs or RLCA? For springs i heard RCE and other brands that don't drop the car more then 1" to be safe and reliable for the stock struts. For Control arms there are many like Cusco, Whiteline, and other top brand names just don't go cheap and your fine.

My Eibach Sportlines came with bump stops and i think the pro kit come with them as well just ask the vendors before you buy.

Springs drops your car which lowers headlight level so your line of sight is lower as well.

[Grymm86]

Originally Posted by red-frsky

Buy quality rear lower control arms that will fix your uneven camber in the rear, i bought spc arms and they are really weak but i got what i paid for.

what problems have you had w/ your SPC arms?

[red-frsky]

Originally Posted by Grymm86

what problems have you had w/ your SPC arms?

None yet but they are VERY FLIMSY and CHEAP; the shop that installed mines said they could bend them in any direction they wanted and the arms looked like it was poorly made and they don't recommend them.