The Results Are In!! Full Blown Stage 1 Kit @ Pure Automotive Performance!

[mact]

Originally Posted by Tansey86

This displacement engine isnt going to give you tq close to hp when you are dealing with numbers this high. At 230hp you might be able to squeeze out 200tq but the higher hp you go the less tq youll make in relation. At 521rwhp they only made 400tq. If you need 450hp and 450tq you might wanna buy the new vette.

It doesn't have much to do with the displacement. The VW GTI 2.0 liter turbo 4 makes 200hp and 207 lb-ft of torque from the factory. That motor can produce monster torque levels because of its lower compression and ability to run a lot more boost than we can.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by mact

It doesn't have much to do with the displacement. The VW GTI 2.0 liter turbo 4 makes 200hp and 207 lb-ft of torque from the factory. That motor can produce monster torque levels because of its lower compression and ability to run a lot more boost than we can.

Wrong. It has nothing to do with boost levels. You can run 30 psi in this motor and you would still see higher HP relative to TQ.

Because HP is derived from TQ x rpm, it has to do with where the torque is made.

Torque generated and maintained to a high red line will produce very high hp numbers.

Torque generated in the lower rpms whilst plummeting in the higher rpms (or if the engine doesn't rev high) will produce high torque numbers relative to hp numbers.

Look at this: 400 HP vs TQ in the two hundreds. Pay attention to where TQ and HP always intersect, the flat TQ curve, and the high red line.



On the flip side look at this. Look at the TQ curve and the low redline.

[whitefrs]

Originally Posted by Tansey86

Haha well you gotta risk it sometimes, but these engines seem pretty stout. I doubt at 300hp youll have any problems engine wise as long as the tune is good. We have a lot of good tuners on LI.

R u goin with this kit?

[Tansey86]

Originally Posted by whitefrs

R u goin with this kit?

When it comes down to it, most likely. Unless JDL can change my mind.

[Coheed]

Great power from that kit!

I like the lower torque numbers myself. It means the car will feel more progressive, won't require a crazy clutch, and is generally easier on the drivetrain. Big torque just breaks things.

[SilverSkyline210]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Wrong. It has nothing to do with boost levels. You can run 30 psi in this motor and you would still see higher HP relative to TQ.

Because HP is derived from TQ x rpm, it has to do with where the torque is made.

Torque generated and maintained to a high red line will produce very high hp numbers.

Torque generated in the lower rpms whilst plummeting in the higher rpms (or if the engine doesn't rev high) will produce high torque numbers relative to hp numbers.

Exactly, another example is Crawford which currently has 400hp/475tq on their BRZ with tq peaking around 4700rpm and tapering off from there, heres one of their old dyno graphs

[mact]

Originally Posted by SilverSkyline210

400hp/475tq on their BRZ

This was the point I was getting at. Crawford's car has a lower CR and running probably over 20psi.

[Pure Automotive]

Anyone who's interested let me know! These are selling as fast as they can make them! I'm very impressed with how it turned out!

[whitefrs]

Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

Anyone who's interested let me know! These are selling as fast as they can make them! I'm very impressed with how it turned out!

Do you sell them?

[dabocx]

Awesome! Going boost after I get some wider rubber.

Any chance you have a stock dyno to overlay?

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by whitefrs

Do you sell them?

From the original post on this install:

Originally Posted by Pure Automotive

First Turbo FRS in Maryland is complete @ Pure Automotive Performance!

This car belongs to @TyperRspec789!


We are a Full Blown Dealer, PM for pricing!

[AZFA20]

So many good options to choose from. This makes it that much harder but truthfully I'm a boost junkie so if I could own em all I would haha

[mashal]

People turn down your volume before playing the video.

[Bmore_Raven86]

impressive! nice job bro!