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Old 12-31-2012, 08:36 PM   #15
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Off topic here but dam a racing seat for $300? Does anyone have anything negative to say about it?
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I use entry level OMPs. They cost me $70. I love em.

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Relax your grip
I suffer schweatty hands as well at the limits...(SNL episode )

sometimes I'll run the fan on low with other vents shut and the ones in front of me aimed at steering wheel.

I often find sitting a bit closer than I normally would-relaxes your back, and make sure youre not having to lean forward, whilst steering,rather see if you can get to where you push and lean back,YET your elbows bent a bit more than normal, and this seems to help me afford a more relaxed grip, make sure I am not using my arms to pull myself forward helps me with both the grip and mind being relaxed(yes hard with all the adrenalin) posture is key. I dont drink coffee on those mornings, decaf.

When I need to wear gloves, I resort to my mtn biking stuff, its pretty tactile and breathable, and grippy. Fox, Pearl Izumi, Specialized, whatever. I would love to know more about driving glove reccomndations tho, not sure if I need them, but still fun to know, and see what a driving specific glove gets you! I see guys wearing big flannel ones, look fireproof and like they are hot.

Are you kidding or serious about the chain-mail looking ones?
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Old 01-02-2013, 11:18 AM   #18
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For fire regulation make sure they are solid and not vented. Most leather landscaping gloves work, and those are the ones you can typically buy at AutoX events for $10 a pair, when three pairs cost $5.
If he's worried about fire protection there's a whole bunch of other items to buy besides nomex gloves. Most non vented but normal gloves offer basically zero fire protection unless they are made in a fire resistant material. And it's somewhat pointless to wear fire resistant gloves and nothing else.. while having burned hands would suck it wouldn't suck as bad as the other 98% of the body being completely exposed and burning.
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I use entry level OMPs. They cost me $70. I love em.

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OMP makes some nice stuff

I currently use some Alpine Stars Tech 1-ZX gloves when racing (I don't bother for DEs since I refuse to wear the other gear in Florida heat without the coolsuit - stupid yes, but I never claimed to be smart). I used to use some Sparco's which I liked almost as much as the Alpine Stars gloves until a teammate poured gasoline all over them during a race weekend
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I might go with the OMP gloves. I'm really not looking at fire protection but I definitely don't want anything that can make things worse in a fire
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If he's worried about fire protection there's a whole bunch of other items to buy besides nomex gloves. Most non vented but normal gloves offer basically zero fire protection unless they are made in a fire resistant material. And it's somewhat pointless to wear fire resistant gloves and nothing else.. while having burned hands would suck it wouldn't suck as bad as the other 98% of the body being completely exposed and burning.

Most on the track DE's require fire safe gloves, and cotton long sleeved shirts (although I've seen people wearing T-shirts), and cotton pants. Porsche clubs DE's are strictest of all and still only require the above. So if you don't have fire safe gloves, you have the choice to buy gloves at the track or go home. Alfa clubs sell both version, Nomex or the cheaper landscaping gloves for $10.

If you plan on doing any track event with any of the organized local clubs, you will have to wear fire safe gloves, otherwise your day maybe over.

Gloves get dirty quick. So it's a good idea to use disposable gloves. At the end of your day, you can use them to swap out your hot to touch wheels, and not burn your fingers. Then once they are too dirty, just use them for yard work or something.

At the end of the day, once I'm done swapping my track wheels with my street wheels, I use them to rub off any gravel that I managed to pick up exiting the track that be be embedded in the rubber, while the tire is still warm/hot, as well as in between sessions.
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Most on the track DE's require fire safe gloves, and cotton long sleeved shirts (although I've seen people wearing T-shirts), and cotton pants. Porsche clubs DE's are strictest of all and still only require the above. So if you don't have fire safe gloves, you have the choice to buy gloves at the track or go home. Alfa clubs sell both version, Nomex or the cheaper landscaping gloves for $10.

If you plan on doing any track event with any of the organized local clubs, you will have to wear fire safe gloves, otherwise your day maybe over.
Maybe in Washington. In over 12 years of DEs (at events/tracks from Iowa and eastward) I've never once had nomex/carbonx/etc gloves as a requirement. PCA here lets you run with short sleeve t-shirts and shorts, as does Chin which is the largest group here. Now I personally run with long sleeve cotton T-Shirts and cotton based pants, but many don't. In reality fire resistant gloves with normal cotton clothing addresses fire concerns about as well as a fixed back seat held in by one bolt and just a lap belt and a rollcage installed addresses occupant safety.

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Gloves get dirty quick. So it's a good idea to use disposable gloves. At the end of your day, you can use them to swap out your hot to touch wheels, and not burn your fingers. Then once they are too dirty, just use them for yard work or something.

At the end of the day, once I'm done swapping my track wheels with my street wheels, I use them to rub off any gravel that I managed to pick up exiting the track that be be embedded in the rubber, while the tire is still warm/hot, as well as in between sessions.
Or just wear some mechanix gloves for that
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I suffer schweatty hands as well at the limits...(SNL episode )

sometimes I'll run the fan on low with other vents shut and the ones in front of me aimed at steering wheel.

I often find sitting a bit closer than I normally would-relaxes your back, and make sure youre not having to lean forward, whilst steering,rather see if you can get to where you push and lean back,YET your elbows bent a bit more than normal, and this seems to help me afford a more relaxed grip, make sure I am not using my arms to pull myself forward helps me with both the grip and mind being relaxed(yes hard with all the adrenalin) posture is key. I dont drink coffee on those mornings, decaf.

When I need to wear gloves, I resort to my mtn biking stuff, its pretty tactile and breathable, and grippy. Fox, Pearl Izumi, Specialized, whatever. I would love to know more about driving glove reccomndations tho, not sure if I need them, but still fun to know, and see what a driving specific glove gets you! I see guys wearing big flannel ones, look fireproof and like they are hot.

Are you kidding or serious about the chain-mail looking ones?
This.

I'm gonna build on it a little.

This is how I recommend that anyone I coach adjust their seat.

- First, put your butt all the way back in your seat, so that there is no gap between your lower back and seat.
- Depress the clutch and gas pedal. Are you able to push both all the way down without any strain at all? If not, adjust the seat position (forward and backward only) as needed
- Next, "straighten" the back of the seat, so that you're sitting fairly straight, and the side bolsters on the back of the seat are supporting your torso; the FRS/BRZ seats are spectacular in this aspect. Now both your lower back and your upper back should be touching the seat. Adjust or flip the headrest around if its getting in the way.
- Next, put your arms on top of the steering wheel at the 12 o'clock position. Your wrists should be touching the steering wheel. If not, adjust the steering wheel position so that your wrists are touching.

This seating position should give you a relaxed grip, and reduce/eliminate strain, and also give you full range of movement while turning.
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Maybe in Washington. In over 12 years of DEs (at events/tracks from Iowa and eastward) I've never once had nomex/carbonx/etc gloves as a requirement. PCA here lets you run with short sleeve t-shirts and shorts, as does Chin which is the largest group here. Now I personally run with long sleeve cotton T-Shirts and cotton based pants, but many don't. In reality fire resistant gloves with normal cotton clothing addresses fire concerns about as well as a fixed back seat held in by one bolt and just a lap belt and a rollcage installed addresses occupant safety.



Or just wear some mechanix gloves for that
Interesting, yes PCA here in Wa is rightfully strict. I suppose other regions have their bad habits, lets try not to teach the new commers to start from there...
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