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brillo · 11-30-2011, 10:24 PM

I would guess you can get another 100lbs without gutting the interior etc.. light weight wheels, tires, battery, remove spare kit etc... will go along way. Wheels should make a real difference on a car this light already.

Levi · 12-01-2011, 06:08 AM

The given weight is curb weight and dry weight, so this means with fluids and with 90% full tank.

The lowest weight is 1180 kg. It is for the car with 16" rims, without radio, A/C,....
The low-spec is at 1210 kg and high spec Subaru at 1230 kg.

Dry weight would be about +1100 kg

Deslock · 12-01-2011, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

The given weight is curb weight and dry weight, so this means with fluids and with 90% full tank.

The lowest weight is 1180 kg. It is for the car with 16" rims, without radio, A/C,....
The low-spec is at 1210 kg and high spec Subaru at 1230 kg.

Dry weight would be about +1100 kg

What's been leaked or released so far:

Toyota:
Racing spec is 1180-1190 kg.
Base trim is 1210 kg.
High-end trim is 1230 kg.

BRZ
"Estimated average" is 1220 kg.

So it'll be more than 2425 pounds dry (that was the weight of the race-prepped car at Nurburgring).

Soravia · 12-01-2011, 07:41 AM

I assume the drive shaft is steel and will go around 40-70lb just like 240SX. That can be saved by aluminum drive shaft for around 20-25lb of savings. After light weight wheels and better Y split dual muffler, that'll be my next performance upgrade. Since header is equal length, it won't need to be touched. Scion will have very few interior parts other than seats with airbags that can be removed for significant savings.

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 04:38 PM

The drive shaft isn't heavy on Subaru's. Maybe 25-30lbs at most, and this one is shorter than your average Subaru driveshaft so probably even less.

c0rbin · 12-01-2011, 04:46 PM

Will probably get around 2350 lbs with moderate weight reduction. That's light!

Tainen · 12-01-2011, 04:56 PM

I wonder if those lightweight seats will be an option that I've seen on some other threads. That'd be a cool option that would still get you good factory fitment and adjustment while lowering the weight a fair amount.

Definitely pulling the spare and throwing a can of fix a flat in there.

e30kawi · 12-01-2011, 10:04 PM

I am just curious how this car is so heavy? I believe my wifes car to be just over 2600lbs (08 civic 4 door lx), seems like with it being a bigger car it would weigh more.

pastuch · 12-01-2011, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30kawi

I am just curious how this car is so heavy? I believe my wifes car to be just over 2600lbs (08 civic 4 door lx), seems like with it being a bigger car it would weigh more.

THe DX is 2600... if your wifes is an automatic lx it's probably 2700. Valid question though...

Kostamojen · 12-01-2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30kawi

I am just curious how this car is so heavy? I believe my wifes car to be just over 2600lbs (08 civic 4 door lx), seems like with it being a bigger car it would weigh more.

I made a thread about this, I guess I need to bump it...

e30kawi · 12-01-2011, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

I made a thread about this, I guess I need to bump it...

Your thread seems to be talking about subarus and various motor weights, how can a eco modern car (2008civic 4dr auto) be so comparable to a car designed to be light?

Steve Theodore · 12-02-2011, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30kawi

Your thread seems to be talking about subarus and various motor weights, how can a eco modern car (2008civic 4dr auto) be so comparable to a car designed to be light?

One reason that comes to mind is that the FR-S is a MR layout, compared to the FF layout of the Civic. I suspect that the addition of a driveshaft and rear differential isn't going to be trivial.

However, also consider that the FR-S is being designed with even more safety/convenience features in mind (I suspect) and probably has sturdier hardware (brakes, wheels, suspension parts) to support its sporting intentions.

Kostamojen · 12-02-2011, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e30kawi

Your thread seems to be talking about subarus and various motor weights, how can a eco modern car (2008civic 4dr auto) be so comparable to a car designed to be light?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Theodore

One reason that comes to mind is that the FR-S is a MR layout, compared to the FF layout of the Civic. I suspect that the addition of a driveshaft and rear differential isn't going to be trivial.

That was part of my analysis. FWD Imprezas weighed under 2400lbs. If you made a 2008 Civic RWD, it would wind up being over 2800lbs.

Quantum · 12-02-2011, 04:23 AM

The US market BRZ will weigh 2770lbs.

Cheers,
Hong

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11-30-2011, 10:24 PM	#15
brillo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 506 Thanks: 18 Thanked 77 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would guess you can get another 100lbs without gutting the interior etc.. light weight wheels, tires, battery, remove spare kit etc... will go along way. Wheels should make a real difference on a car this light already.

12-01-2011, 06:08 AM	#16
Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The given weight is curb weight and dry weight, so this means with fluids and with 90% full tank. The lowest weight is 1180 kg. It is for the car with 16" rims, without radio, A/C,.... The low-spec is at 1210 kg and high spec Subaru at 1230 kg. Dry weight would be about +1100 kg

12-01-2011, 07:41 AM	#18
Soravia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Miata Club Location: Alabama Posts: 120 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I assume the drive shaft is steel and will go around 40-70lb just like 240SX. That can be saved by aluminum drive shaft for around 20-25lb of savings. After light weight wheels and better Y split dual muffler, that'll be my next performance upgrade. Since header is equal length, it won't need to be touched. Scion will have very few interior parts other than seats with airbags that can be removed for significant savings.

12-01-2011, 04:38 PM	#19
Kostamojen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 1993 Impreza w/ WRX Swap + FWD! Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 2,071 Thanks: 217 Thanked 949 Times in 499 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The drive shaft isn't heavy on Subaru's. Maybe 25-30lbs at most, and this one is shorter than your average Subaru driveshaft so probably even less.

12-01-2011, 04:46 PM	#20
c0rbin Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 97' 240SX Location: US Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Will probably get around 2350 lbs with moderate weight reduction. That's light!

12-01-2011, 04:56 PM	#21
Tainen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: First SWP BRZ-L Location: Washington Posts: 809 Thanks: 154 Thanked 350 Times in 174 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wonder if those lightweight seats will be an option that I've seen on some other threads. That'd be a cool option that would still get you good factory fitment and adjustment while lowering the weight a fair amount. Definitely pulling the spare and throwing a can of fix a flat in there.

12-01-2011, 10:04 PM	#22
e30kawi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: CWP limited Location: Texas Posts: 187 Thanks: 165 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I am just curious how this car is so heavy? I believe my wifes car to be just over 2600lbs (08 civic 4 door lx), seems like with it being a bigger car it would weigh more.

12-02-2011, 04:23 AM	#28
Quantum Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Infiniti G35 Location: Bay Area Posts: 54 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The US market BRZ will weigh 2770lbs. Cheers, Hong

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