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chutrain · 12-17-2012, 03:02 PM

That should have been a money shot and something would be rattling around. I think you got lucky. I believe their is a lockout for first gear for a certain speed. Surprised you were able to put it in gear.

that_one_guy · 12-17-2012, 03:09 PM

a tip for those who are new to manual, don't think of 3rd as slightly over and forward. because the springs will pull the stick to neutral, 3rd is always just straight forward. going from 2nd, push forward without any side motion, the stick will fall into neutral from 2nd and your hand will push it directly into 3rd.

same with 4th, but backwards and this works for upshifting and down shifting. now your body doesnt have to think if its all the way over for 1st or just a little bit over for 3rd, you just think 1st is left-up, 2nd is left-down, 3rd is straight forward, 4th is straight back, 5th is right up, and 6th right down.

lantsalot · 12-17-2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by that_one_guy

a tip for those who are new to manual, don't think of 3rd as slightly over and forward. because the springs will pull the stick to neutral, 3rd is always just straight forward. going from 2nd, push forward without any side motion, the stick will fall into neutral from 2nd and your hand will push it directly into 3rd.

same with 4th, but backwards and this works for upshifting and down shifting. now your body doesnt have to think if its all the way over for 1st or just a little bit over for 3rd, you just think 1st is left-up, 2nd is left-down, 3rd is straight forward, 4th is straight back, 5th is right up, and 6th right down.

I've been driving manual for 10 years now, and I had never consciously realized this, crazy!

DarkSunrise · 12-17-2012, 03:22 PM

I think you're ok. Isn't 40 mph in 1st < 8000 rpm? Visconti's tune pushes redline to 7800 rpm and no issues with that. To be safe though, listen for strange noises coming from the valvetrain.

Celica00 · 12-17-2012, 03:25 PM

completely stock, 1st only goes to 38 mph before hitting rev limit. at least for my car so it wouldnt be possible for me to be in 1st and 40

speedy racer · 12-17-2012, 03:33 PM

Gear indicator useless on FRS, It doesn`t show which gear you are in till you pop the clutch. Wish it detected gear as soon as you throw it in gear like reverse gear.

86'd · 12-17-2012, 03:33 PM

If it was very brief, then nothing. If it was for a while (or often) then there might be some bent valves.

If you're really worried have a compression test done just to be sure.

I did it in my S2000 a long time ago. From 3rd back to second. It sounded like it hit 10k rpm. Freaked me out.

But everything checked out, I made sure from then on to get in the habit of shifting down and away (into 4th) from then on.

I turn my shifting palm away from me with my thumb facing down and my pinky up in the air, and shift into 4th that way; it kinda prevents you from going straight down or over into 2nd. That's the only gear I do it for.

slowbrz · 12-17-2012, 03:39 PM

I'm not sure if I went 40 it could be a little under. I'm thinking 35-40. if I don't notice any strange sounds, does that mean I'm okay?

chulooz · 12-17-2012, 03:45 PM

Sounds like you luckily avoided a money shot. Careful thats a surefire way to break any car.

Celica00 · 12-17-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowbrz

I'm not sure if I went 40 it could be a little under. I'm thinking 35-40. if I don't notice any strange sounds, does that mean I'm okay?

if thats the case, then it was as if you did nothing more than a spirited redline pull. youre good.

dabocx · 12-17-2012, 03:50 PM

Im willing to bet it was under 40 because at least to my knowledge the car wont go into first if its over 40.

Sportsguy83 · 12-17-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx

Im willing to bet it was under 40 because at least to my knowledge the car wont go into first if its over 40.

The car will go into any gear at any speed. You just need to try hard enough

Dave-ROR · 12-17-2012, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabocx

Im willing to bet it was under 40 because at least to my knowledge the car wont go into first if its over 40.

Oh it will..

that should be just about 8,125-8,200RPM though, there are guys running these to 8,000 and IIRC some to 8,500 on stock valvetrain. My guess with the limited testing thus far, this car is perfectly fine.

TRD-FRS · 12-17-2012, 05:16 PM

Just recalled that one time I listen to loud music in my Honda Fit car and was on 3rd gear, went pass Redline and the engine shuts itself off, thank good with new technology, did it twice

(( poor baby....

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12-17-2012, 03:09 PM	#16
that_one_guy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: none Location: CA Posts: 437 Thanks: 46 Thanked 368 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	a tip for those who are new to manual, don't think of 3rd as slightly over and forward. because the springs will pull the stick to neutral, 3rd is always just straight forward. going from 2nd, push forward without any side motion, the stick will fall into neutral from 2nd and your hand will push it directly into 3rd. same with 4th, but backwards and this works for upshifting and down shifting. now your body doesnt have to think if its all the way over for 1st or just a little bit over for 3rd, you just think 1st is left-up, 2nd is left-down, 3rd is straight forward, 4th is straight back, 5th is right up, and 6th right down.

12-17-2012, 03:22 PM	#18
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,792 Thanks: 2,161 Thanked 4,238 Times in 2,218 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I think you're ok. Isn't 40 mph in 1st < 8000 rpm? Visconti's tune pushes redline to 7800 rpm and no issues with that. To be safe though, listen for strange noises coming from the valvetrain.

12-17-2012, 03:25 PM	#19
Celica00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 86 Location: utah Posts: 1,156 Thanks: 842 Thanked 798 Times in 434 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	completely stock, 1st only goes to 38 mph before hitting rev limit. at least for my car so it wouldnt be possible for me to be in 1st and 40

12-17-2012, 03:33 PM	#20
speedy racer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 92 lexus sc300 > whiteout MT FRS Location: charlotte nc Posts: 202 Thanks: 38 Thanked 38 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gear indicator useless on FRS, It doesn`t show which gear you are in till you pop the clutch. Wish it detected gear as soon as you throw it in gear like reverse gear.

12-17-2012, 03:33 PM	#21
86'd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2012 WRX Sedan Location: Los Angeles Posts: 511 Thanks: 25 Thanked 97 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it was very brief, then nothing. If it was for a while (or often) then there might be some bent valves. If you're really worried have a compression test done just to be sure. I did it in my S2000 a long time ago. From 3rd back to second. It sounded like it hit 10k rpm. Freaked me out. But everything checked out, I made sure from then on to get in the habit of shifting down and away (into 4th) from then on. I turn my shifting palm away from me with my thumb facing down and my pinky up in the air, and shift into 4th that way; it kinda prevents you from going straight down or over into 2nd. That's the only gear I do it for.

12-17-2012, 03:39 PM	#22
slowbrz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 black BRZ MT Location: Cali Posts: 153 Thanks: 60 Thanked 17 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not sure if I went 40 it could be a little under. I'm thinking 35-40. if I don't notice any strange sounds, does that mean I'm okay?

12-17-2012, 03:45 PM	#23
chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like you luckily avoided a money shot. Careful thats a surefire way to break any car.

12-17-2012, 03:50 PM	#25
dabocx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: United States Posts: 1,267 Thanks: 564 Thanked 261 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im willing to bet it was under 40 because at least to my knowledge the car wont go into first if its over 40.

12-17-2012, 05:16 PM	#28
TRD-FRS Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Made In Japan Location: Canada Posts: 29 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just recalled that one time I listen to loud music in my Honda Fit car and was on 3rd gear, went pass Redline and the engine shuts itself off, thank good with new technology, did it twice (( poor baby....

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