calling ya local dealer

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Slide

Haven't done it yet.

Let us know who ya talk to keen to do it if the sales guys know what they are talking about.

this guy apparently isn't a low ranking sales person. my friend said he could decide the deal on the spot during his negotiation.

i don't expect him to have any info. i plan only to talk about pre-ordering as well as availibility/price issues once the car is officially launched in Australia.

Make sure you get in writing that this is fully refundable depending on price and advisability and date.

of cos. this is a no brainer.

[pkc]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

any Brisbane has pre-ordered?

i wasn't planning to but my friend has just recently bought a Kruger (@3.9% yay) and the sales he deals with was good. so i am thinking to go to have a chat with him.

I've put down $1000 with southside toyota at woolloongabba. This is fully refundable if I am not satisfied. They've called it an "option to buy". I need to make sure that it can fit two car seats for a 3 & 6 year old in the back...

[FT-86]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

i don't expect him to have any info. i plan only to talk about pre-ordering as well as availibility/price issues once the car is officially launched in Australia.

Can you also please ask how many models/range of 86 they are planning to launch here in Australia.
Thanks!

[PuGZoR]

Originally Posted by pkc

I've put down $1000 with southside toyota at woolloongabba. This is fully refundable if I am not satisfied. They've called it an "option to buy". I need to make sure that it can fit two car seats for a 3 & 6 year old in the back...

Lemme guess, Mike? He posts on here, haha.

[pr0j]

if he seems like the go-to guy i might have to go down there and chat to him too.

[PuGZoR]

Regarding finance, friggen Renault are offering 2.9% finance on a good portion of their consumer-based range. Now if Toyota can't move more units of the 86 than ANY Renault, then I might as well kill myself now because there's no hope for humanity.

[Nardi330]

Renault unfortunately needs this to shift stock. they don't do this for Renaultsport models tho.

on the other hand, 86 isn't Toyota's volume seller. in theory they don't need to offer 3.9%.

[Smacca]

Originally Posted by FT-86

Can you also please ask how many models/range of 86 they are planning to launch here in Australia.
Thanks!

Ok, I've been in touch with a friend who works in management of several NSW car dealerships, including a Toyota dealer. He's also personally interested in buying an 86, so he's been trying to find out as much info as he can.

According to his sale's staff, internal rumours (he stresses rumours) between dealers and Toyota Aus suggest the 86 will be offered in two spec levels. The basic spec will be released on June 8 for around 35k + on road costs, while the premium fully-loaded spec will be released by August for 40-42k + on road costs...

[pr0j]

40 - 42? better get to saving then, asap.

[Nardi330]

That's pretty much as expected. Not too bad with the base I must say but 42k + Orc is a bit high....

[Smacca]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

That's pretty much as expected. Not too bad with the base I must say but 42k + Orc is a bit high....

It does add up quickly, doesn't it? It will be interesting to see just how basic the entry level spec is.

My logical guess is the base spec will be similar to the Scion FR-S version announced, while the premium spec will be similar to the Japanese press cars. If the extra 7k differences buys you LED DRL's, sportier rims, climate con, smart entry/start, leather, touch screen audio, bigger exhaust and spoiler then I'm up for it.

I personally can't stand the Scion's non LED headlights; it cheapens the car's entire appearance. Not a performance factor I know, but it's probably going to be the deciding factor for me to cough up the extra dough.

[Slide]

Yeah what I thought it would be same price as a golf gti. Better get everything seen in jdm spec

[armstrod]

Hrmm interesting... although that said, of the extra's being batted around I'd only want climate control and smart entry... if they're not offering any performance benefits I think there might be a few people like myself thinking asking 7 grand for purely cosmetic stuff might be a bit naff on a sport car. I must admit though, I don't really know how toyota do their spec levels. Is it normally just extra fluff on the same car like, or is it like nissan, where a different spec means the car has a bunch of different go-fast bits tucked into it?

Thanks for posting the info!

[PuGZoR]

Originally Posted by Nardi330

Renault unfortunately needs this to shift stock. they don't do this for Renaultsport models tho.

on the other hand, 86 isn't Toyota's volume seller. in theory they don't need to offer 3.9%.

My point was that the finance isn't volume based, as the previous argument was that it was only available on volume sellers, like the Corolla and Camry. Any manufacturer can get access to this level of finance. I still think that if finance was a sticking point, you could probably get them to give you a good rate on the 86 (or any Toyota) to bring you over the line. Probably won't be any less than that, but I'm sure they could match it at worst. It's a marketing ploy.

Also, I don't think a 7k difference is likely. I think the Rukus is a good example of what they're likely to do with the 86 in terms of options as it's a low volume seller at a similar price point:

• Build 1 is the basic model and starts around 28-30k on road.
• Build 2 has the same engine, same wheels, but gets a nicer steering wheel, climate control rather than basic air con (this was a diff between grades of the 86, right?), leather accented upholstery, and an upgrade from 6 speaker audio to 9 speaker, with subwoofer. +3k on Build 1 price.
• Build 3 is the same as Build 2, but with a tilt and slide sunroof. +3k on Build 2 price.

Everything from lock nuts, to kayak carriers, to TRD shift knobs, to GPS nav units are all dealer options. On a lot of cars these days, spoilers are on that list of dealer fitted options too.

To be honest I haven't kept up with the differences between JDM specs. Having said that I think the only difference between our specs are going to be in air-con (standard or climate control), maybe some minor upholstery tweaks, audio upgrade (not necessarily headunit), HID's and LED running lights. Maybe a bigger set of wheels is likely too, but there'll be more options for this available from dealers since they're so easy to change.

One big deciding cost factor is probably going to be the choice between manual and auto. To me, low spec in manual compared to high spec with auto is the only way that we might see a 7k difference. There'd probably only be around a 4k difference in trim specs but the choice between manual and auto might change things by up to 3k.

EDIT: Like the Rukus compared to the Scion xB, I think we're likely to see a lot of more premium items on the base model. Because Toyota AU aren't going to shift as many units and would have a much higher floor price due to amortisation on homologation, they're going to have to release it with a few extra bits at cost to add a bit of value in.