how to bulid your own turbo kit for cheap

[superstani]

Many great points made Anti lag and be perfectly clear i'm not trying to defend thread starter or put down great work that you and your team have been doing. however i do understand the reason for this tread. Not everyone has 5000 to spend on a turbo kit + supporting mods such as fuel and engine management in addition some people would like to use different turbo components. what I'm trying to say is that it would be really nice if builders offered all the parts separately it would show true value of turbo kits vs buying everything separately.

anyways this is just my opinion and i hope i didn't offend anyone but i wish you all best of luck with you projects.

[ANTI_LAG]

Using not everyone can afford a $5000 turbo kit Isint a good way to base a reason to build your own kit. Saying you want something different or you want a challenge is a reason. If you can't afford a turbo system, then you shouldn't build your own. If you can afford a turbo system but you simply want to build your own that's a completely different scenario. For example lets say you can't afford said $5k turbo system, so you peice together your own barely being able to afford it. Then by chance it makes it through the Dyno session and alls good. Then one day you get a bad tank of gas and melt a piston or your racing at the track and shear off 4th gear. What do you do now? You could barely afford to put together the kit and tune, now your broke and making a car payment... Ill let you know from seeing others, the car gets parked and sits. But if you can afford a turbo system and have money you can just fix it. See what I'm getting at?

A aftermarket turbo car is a luxury, not a necessity. If you can't afford the luxury and upkeep that goes with it, then don't do it till you can. Trust me, having a turbo car is great, but when stuff breaks (cause it will), nothing is worse then getting stuck with a pile of money that you can't go race.

[bakerr6]

antilag, I have made my share of turbokits for cars, not because it's what I wanted to do, but becasue there was no market for the car. I can tell you that with a good team and patience, even a DIY kit can look professional. I'll post up pics in a sec

[bakerr6]

This was on a 2010 v6 mustang, pretty straight forward. I also did a turbo kit for a 99 firebird 3.8l v6

I agree with you that it should be done by someone with experience, but saying that people cannot make a decent kit just because they do not own a shop is a little thick-headed

[ANTI_LAG]

That's not what I said.

[bakerr6]

Now I dont want to sound like a **** but this thread is an insult to manufacturers. I dont think you should start the thread off by saying I can build the same kit for half the price, it should be called "I can build a kit with cheaper products, less quality welds, untested parts combination, for half the price, then im going to sell 5 of these, make no money because its not possible to profit in this situation, then those that bought them will have a ton of issues then want to return them but ill be long gone because I didn't make any money on them and they will be fucked."

That right there tells me that you think that an individual cannot do what you are doing. I would never build a kit for a profit, nor do I think I could build the amount of quality kits that your company does, but the ones I have built have been reliable (to an extent) and have looked just as presentable. now I can tell you that I've never built a kit that was under $3,500, but that's because I use the best parts I can find.

[ForcedFab_Jon]

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG

Using not everyone can afford a $5000 turbo kit Isint a good way to base a reason to build your own kit. Saying you want something different or you want a challenge is a reason. If you can't afford a turbo system, then you shouldn't build your own. If you can afford a turbo system but you simply want to build your own that's a completely different scenario. For example lets say you can't afford said $5k turbo system, so you peice together your own barely being able to afford it. Then by chance it makes it through the Dyno session and alls good. Then one day you get a bad tank of gas and melt a piston or your racing at the track and shear off 4th gear. What do you do now? You could barely afford to put together the kit and tune, now your broke and making a car payment... Ill let you know from seeing others, the car gets parked and sits. But if you can afford a turbo system and have money you can just fix it. See what I'm getting at?

A aftermarket turbo car is a luxury, not a necessity. If you can't afford the luxury and upkeep that goes with it, then don't do it till you can. Trust me, having a turbo car is great, but when stuff breaks (cause it will), nothing is worse then getting stuck with a pile of money that you can't go race.

I have a EVO sitting here that is exactly the result of what you just said. 14K loan , car blows up, car sits till loan is paid down to 10K, customer takes out additional 5K to build engine and get car back together, budget was spent on stupid shit and not all of it made it to me, car still sitting a year and half later with a built motor but no funds to finish. results a sad owner and a Evo that is rusting away outside.

[ANTI_LAG]

Originally Posted by bakerr6

Now I dont want to sound like a **** but this thread is an insult to manufacturers. I dont think you should start the thread off by saying I can build the same kit for half the price, it should be called "I can build a kit with cheaper products, less quality welds, untested parts combination, for half the price, then im going to sell 5 of these, make no money because its not possible to profit in this situation, then those that bought them will have a ton of issues then want to return them but ill be long gone because I didn't make any money on them and they will be fucked."

That right there tells me that you think that an individual cannot do what you are doing. I would never build a kit for a profit, nor do I think I could build the amount of quality kits that your company does, but the ones I have built have been reliable (to an extent) and have looked just as presentable. now I can tell you that I've never built a kit that was under $3,500, but that's because I use the best parts I can find.

The OP said he would offer a kit for half the price to compete with the ones out.

Also you clearly said you didn't make yours for profit, the OP clearly stated he is.

Also you have just said you couldn't make a kit for under $3500 due to your want to use quality parts, this backs up what I have said.

Look I'm not against people saying they want to make thier own kits, I never said anything to silverdub, I even answered his technical questions. But there's a big difference between him and the OP, silverdub didn't get on here and basically say he's trying to provide the same product for half cost and sell to the public. He said he wanted to make his own, that's it. He also has an extra car, this makes it sensible to do this cause if something breaks he can just hop in his other vehicle.

This all goes back to if you have money to buy a kit but you want to make you own, do your thing, but if your money situation Isint right, then wait till it is.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by ForcedFab_Jon

I have a EVO sitting here that is exactly the result of what you just said. 14K loan , car blows up, car sits till loan is paid down to 10K, customer takes out additional 5K to build engine and get car back together, budget was spent on stupid shit and not all of it made it to me, car still sitting a year and half later with a built motor but no funds to finish. results a sad owner and a Evo that is rusting away outside.

And that is a factory turbo car that should hold up, we are talking a brand new engine here and while it has been pretty strong so far there is no telling what could happen in the future. I was set on supercharging my car next summer but have chosen to wait until i am more financially stable before i do it.

[superstani]

Using not everyone can afford a $5000 turbo kit Isint a good way to base a reason to build your own kit. Saying you want something different or you want a challenge is a reason. If you can't afford a turbo system, then you shouldn't build your own. If you can afford a turbo system but you simply want to build your own that's a completely different scenario. For example lets say you can't afford said $5k turbo system, so you peice together your own barely being able to afford it. Then by chance it makes it through the Dyno session and alls good. Then one day you get a bad tank of gas and melt a piston or your racing at the track and shear off 4th gear. What do you do now? You could barely afford to put together the kit and tune, now your broke and making a car payment... Ill let you know from seeing others, the car gets parked and sits. But if you can afford a turbo system and have money you can just fix it. See what I'm getting at?


right some people would like to build their own setups might even save money in the process and have a little more control. unfortunately the parts are not out there yet. but its a relatively new car so its understandable.

[Silverdub]

As stated above dont think you will save tons of money going diy. You will save a couple bucks but not a whole lot. I went diy because i could and wanted. Trust me it would of been much easier to just buy a kit.

[Shit Luck]

I love that a vendor reported the thread....

how dare anyone with skills do something on their own without asking his permission...
I have no intent on selling anything, I also have no intent on paying for someone to perform welds I am perfectly capable of.
if a vendor gets butt hurt over this you really need to take a step back,more than likely nobody who is seriously thinking about building their own kit would buy one anyway.

[bakerr6]

I agree, if you are building it because you think it will be cheaper, I'd go against this. However, there are plenty of good reasons to make your own.

I know when I go FI on this car, I will be buying a kit, and may modify it to my liking.

[ANTI_LAG]

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

I love that a vendor reported the thread....

how dare anyone with skills do something on their own without asking his permission...
I have no intent on selling anything, I also have no intent on paying for someone to perform welds I am perfectly capable of.
if a vendor gets butt hurt over this you really need to take a step back,more than likely nobody who is seriously thinking about building their own kit would buy one anyway.

Please see post #50 above