FA20CLUB Over Pipe Front Pipe & Cold Air Intake Now Ready

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Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan

Agreed. I was extremely interested until I saw that.

youll never maximize gains without a tunes its been proven time and time again. the mods will show improvement but like i stated already ive gotten datalogs from customers who already had a tune and the afr was 1-1.5 afr richer than prior to installing the pipes. i expect that since removing the secondary cat richens up the system quite a bit. and running too much fool limit power output. this is why all the ecutek tunes removes all the excess fuel and we gain 10+whp. too rich="bad" if you had. adversely i did notice that with just the pipes the car on the stock air box leaned out ebough that it gained power but afr was in the high 13s which explains why a stock car shows gains with the pipes only before an intake is added. granted the gains are there but high 13s isnt going to be healthy over the long run.

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Is there a dry flow filter option? Congrats on the numbers you know my setup do you think the intake would be worthwhile?

ill check to see if AEM offers a filter that will fit behind the bumper without crunching

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

What part of FL are you in? Thx

Im in the ft lauderdale/palm beach area

[Turdinator]

One thing I'm not clear on, if i purchased the intake only would i require a tune for it to run safely and with good drive-ability?

[2forme]

Does the intake require any cutting or removal of that plastic clip on the upper radiator guard?

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Originally Posted by Turdinator

One thing I'm not clear on, if i purchased the intake only would i require a tune for it to run safely and with good drive-ability?

the intake tube diameter doesnt mandate a tune. and will still yield the standard gains of 8-10hp i would honestly say that these hg gains will be more consistent on road speeds feeding cooler air from outside the engine bay.

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Originally Posted by 2forme

Does the intake require any cutting or removal of that plastic clip on the upper radiator guard?

only thing we removed for install was the fatory intake tube for the airbox

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

DYNO Chart

Green Line: Stock With Overpipe, Front Pipe & CAI Installed Untuned
Blue Line: Overpipe, Front Pipe & CAI Tuned +19-21WHP over untuned results
Red Line: Overpipe, Front Pipe & Stock Air Box Tuned +10WHP over untuned results

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

the intake tube diameter doesnt mandate a tune. and will still yield the standard gains of 8-10hp i would honestly say that these hg gains will be more consistent on road speeds feeding cooler air from outside the engine bay.

So with the overpipe, front pipe, and intake (but no tune) the car maxes out at about 130 whp.
And you say the intake makes a "standard gain of 8-10 hp".
So this car maxed out at about 120 whp on your dyno in completely stock form? (my definition of stock is "no mods")

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

The car lost power without tune adjustments.

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

the intake tube diameter doesnt mandate a tune. and will still yield the standard gains of 8-10hp

Color me confused

[Turdinator]

Originally Posted by mike2100

Color me confused

This is what i wasn't sure about. But if you read carefully its the exhaust that requires the tune

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

The car lost power without tune adjustments. I have noticed that most customers who install the over & front pipe contact me with datalogs running extremely rich from their current tune and complaining of a loss of power.

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I will have all the parts off the car in the morning to run the car bone stock untuned i would assume it should make somewhere around 145hp and it should make around 155hp with the intake. those are the only 2 dyno runs i have let to do. to finalize all our baselines. im sure once we get at least a full tank of gas run through her she'll make more power baseline as well as with the mods. remember guys this car is fresh off the lot with only 80 miles on her.

[1strwdcar]

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

I will have all the parts off the car in the morning to run the car bone stock untuned i would assume it should make somewhere around 145hp and it should make around 155hp with the intake. those are the only 2 dyno runs i have let to do. to finalize all our baselines. im sure once we get at least a full tank of gas run through her she'll make more power baseline as well as with the mods. remember guys this car is fresh off the lot with only 80 miles on her.

i have an injen intake and perrin pulley along with a Q300 catback my catless front pipe is on the way. My car does feel stronger. are you saying with the catless front im going to richen up and lose power??

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Originally Posted by 1strwdcar

i have an injen intake and perrin pulley along with a Q300 catback my catless front pipe is on the way. My car does feel stronger. are you saying with the catless front im going to richen up and lose power??

ft86 speedfactory can get you one of our tunes since you shop with them. but yes the catless version cause a richer overall mixture. youll probably pickup power since you already have an intake though but if you went with front pipe and catless pipe you would be on the rich side.

[1strwdcar]

Thank you ill give it a try but your tune is next ony list. Car feel strong right now

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

ft86 speedfactory can get you one of our tunes since you shop with them. but yes the catless version cause a richer overall mixture. youll probably pickup power since you already have an intake though but if you went with front pipe and catless pipe you would be on the rich side.