Best Coilovers?

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I am suggesting that 2.5" drop and "quality ride" are mutually exclusive.

Originally Posted by EarlQHan

ruth fact
not true, it can be done but it's harder since the ability for the suspension to travel is limited. however the damping ratio is not dependent on travel. it also depends on your definition of quality ride. unfortunately, it's completely subjective.

I am suggesting that 2.5" drop and "quality ride" are mutually exclusive on a limited budget.

[robispec]

AMEN it cost us over 5K to get to 3" drop with stock camber curves and the roll center/bump steer corrected..oh the car only has 3" compression travel YOU do the math on a 2.5" drop. Who needs springs anyways?/? lol




we still have full travel and due to the shorter tire we also have no rubbing even at the track going over curbs when nessisary

[SubieNate]

@robispec - are you keeping full travel due to strut housings and springs that are designed to be low or do you have more than that going on? I don't really want to be that low but if I could drop 1-2" and INCREASE bump travel that'd be amazing.

Thanks,
Nathan

[robispec]

we raised the upper strut mount in the front and used the ground control mount which yields 2" raised front mount and raised the rear shock mount up 2 " too (needed to "clearance" the sheetmetal reeinforcement back there to get this to work though).
Parts available for this sometime in Jan ready for the time attack season!
custom front lower control arms give you castor,camber,track,anti-dive, and roll center adjustment/correction, with bumpsteerable tierod ends fixes all the geometry issues you have caused

[robispec]

oh it is "robi" @robispec posting...lol

[NJA]

Originally Posted by ModBargains.com

Once you say DD for daily driver, I immediately say KW. I've had KW V2's on my vehicle for the last year, just got a new car, and looking to get KW's just after 300 miles on my brand new car, because I know KW will be comfortable for the street, but good enough for performance when I want to ramp it up.

I think that's probably why I get more KW orders than anything else

I run KW V2's on my personal vehicle as well as I agree they can be setup to ride almost as soft as stock if you'd like. The price still isn't "cheap" though by any means.

For strictly street use I would probably look into BC Racing or Stance coilovers. I've been on many forums and can't say I've ever seen a complaint about them. Plus they are priced appropriately for most owners.

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

No disagreement there. The guy I was replying to was trying to say no coil overs would provide good ride quality. The OP is willing to pay for V3s and they are great street threaded body coil overs.

As the guy above me said he has no funds, no funds to me means coil's around 1k. For 1k you can get spring/shocks that are better then the 1k coil and give a slammed look.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by NinjaAutosports

For strictly street use I would probably look into BC Racing or Stance coilovers. I've been on many forums and can't say I've ever seen a complaint about them. Plus they are priced appropriately for most owners.

Um, not sure which forums you're a member of. There are hordes of people on Nasioc that detest BC. Same for www.rs25.com minus the hordes part. More like a gaggle of people.

Anywhere you have large numbers of people who actually care about performance, track ability, and comfort you're going to have people that dislike BC and their ilk.

Nathan

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

Um, not sure which forums you're a member of. There are hordes of people on Nasioc that detest BC. Same for www.rs25.com minus the hordes part. More like a gaggle of people.

Anywhere you have large numbers of people who actually care about performance, track ability, and comfort you're going to have people that dislike BC and their ilk.

Nathan

Last time I went on Nasioc they were more people in love with it then hating it. Also the OP isent even tracking the car, so whats the point of buying expensive coils just for the slammed look when he could just buy springs/shocks.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

Last time I went on Nasioc they were more people in love with it then hating it.

Well that's just like, your opinion man.

There are a bajillion people on Nasioc. Many of which are hellaflush fanboys. The people who are serious about tracking and performance in general have gotten over the BC phase.

The problem with WRX's and even the older RS's I have loved for so long is that they are now cheap. Cheap enough that 16 year old highschool students can buy them. That's awesome on one front because it's exposing new people to great cars. It's bad because many of those people don't have a clue what good handling is and think, "It's low and stiff yo, uber good handling!" when really that gokart feeling is the bumpstops and their car's limits have been drastically reduced even from the stock configuration.

Just looking at the BC setup for this car I can see that the amount of bump travel available is miniscule. That means they're either inordinately stiff to avoid the bump stops, or they're riding on them. Neither of which is good for performance.

Lastly, with such short springs the droop travel before things are just hanging limp is minimal, further compromising the performance. This can result in lifting tires while cornering, and loss of traction over uneven surfaces.

Let's not get into the quality of the damping or "adjustment" they offer.

Nathan

[VADER]

Ok, edited first post. Based off of that what do you guys think? COILOVERS OR SHOCKS/SPRINGS?

[WolfsFang]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

Well that's just like, your opinion man.

There are a bajillion people on Nasioc. Many of which are hellaflush fanboys. The people who are serious about tracking and performance in general have gotten over the BC phase.

The problem with WRX's and even the older RS's I have loved for so long is that they are now cheap. Cheap enough that 16 year old highschool students can buy them. That's awesome on one front because it's exposing new people to great cars. It's bad because many of those people don't have a clue what good handling is and think, "It's low and stiff yo, uber good handling!" when really that gokart feeling is the bumpstops and their car's limits have been drastically reduced even from the stock configuration.

Just looking at the BC setup for this car I can see that the amount of bump travel available is miniscule. That means they're either inordinately stiff to avoid the bump stops, or they're riding on them. Neither of which is good for performance.

Lastly, with such short springs the droop travel before things are just hanging limp is minimal, further compromising the performance. This can result in lifting tires while cornering, and loss of traction over uneven surfaces.

Let's not get into the quality of the damping or "adjustment" they offer.

Nathan

The op stated he is not tracking the car so whats the point in getting more expensive coils just for the slammed look, please riddle me this.

[JoeBoxer]

Koni's are 770 + 230 for some springs or you can get the GC street system that's height adjustable for 1350 so you can drop it for shows. I would go with one of those two or just get some springs on the stock struts which are fine until you can afford something like KW. I wouldn't personally run BC or Stance on my car but I know lots do and are happy but that's a decision only you can make. Is there anybody local to you with aftermarket suspension?

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

The op stated he is not tracking the car so whats the point in getting more expensive coils just for the slammed look, please riddle me this.

whats the point of getting the best coilovers just for the slammed look?