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jdzumwalt · 12-01-2012, 12:13 AM

I think this is what the doctor ordered should help with the over steer issue too.

gmookher · 12-01-2012, 01:45 AM

theres really no need to preload...

jdzumwalt · 12-02-2012, 02:10 PM

Pre loading seems like a bad idea.

jdzumwalt · 12-02-2012, 02:30 PM

Does anybody have a comparison of the dampeners VS the KW.

7thgear · 12-03-2012, 12:09 PM

question time

i am not an engineer and my understanding of physics is limited to a certain degree of mcgyverism

but my understanding is that sidewall deflection happens on two axis and while your bolts may do more than enough laterally can you reasure us with some tech-talk that the independent vertical loads are not a concern for the small hardware? i'm thinking of the torquing forces on such a small area.

i've attached a crude diagram to explain my thoughts, which could be entirely incorrect but i'm open to education

GC86 · 12-03-2012, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear

question time

i am not an engineer and my understanding of physics is limited to a certain degree of mcgyverism

but my understanding is that sidewall deflection happens on two axis and while your bolts may do more than enough laterally can you reasure us with some tech-talk that the independent vertical loads are not a concern for the small hardware? i'm thinking of the torquing forces on such a small area.

i've attached a crude diagram to explain my thoughts, which could be entirely incorrect but i'm open to education

Simple answer. The design, material and dimensions chosen are laterally rigid, but not vertically rigid.

That is the reason why the bar looks like it does.

I notice you specifically chose the phrase "small hardware". Thank you for pointing out that modern metallurgy can produce an incredibly strong bolt in a small size.

In fact, the size of the fastener used for the connecting rods in a built WRX motor is also 3/8 inch, and is good for over 400hp at 7500 rpm. This means an acceleration of zero to full stress 125 times PER SECOND. And they don't break either.

7thgear · 12-03-2012, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GC86

Simple answer. The material and dimensions chosen are laterally rigid, but not vertically rigid.

and this isn't a concern in the intended application?

which i guess it wouldn't be because the vertical deflection must be minimal... but still i'm just curious

GC86 · 12-03-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear

and this isn't a concern in the intended application?

Yes it is a -mild- concern, which is why it (vertical movement) was taken into account during the design phase.

GTB/ZR-1 · 02-01-2013, 02:08 PM

Wow, Adam--these Plates are works of art... Can't wait to get them on. Nicely done!!!

AZFA20 · 02-02-2013, 01:37 AM

^^^ looks awesome! I went with the pewter also but I have been out of town so I haven't even been able to open them yet to see how they look

I will get to see the whole setup in all it's glory on superbowl Sunday when I get to come home and rip into the package like a fat kid and a box of twinkies.

Surok · 02-02-2013, 02:21 AM

Ok i am ordering KW clubsport coilovers, and dont want to spend the extra 1k on the camber plates, do you guys make a rear solid top mount too?

GTB/ZR-1 · 02-02-2013, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AZFA20

I will get to see the whole setup in all it's glory on superbowl Sunday when I get to come home and rip into the package like a fat kid and a box of twinkies.

I LOL'd!!!

DriftEightSix · 02-10-2013, 08:56 PM

How much does the full setup weight? & and how does that compare to stock?

I am currently on your website and I would like some of the options explained for me if you could.

Little background of how I drive my car so you can help make the right recommendations- I daily drive my car I also drive a mountain pass at least twice a week avg speed on this pass is 80km/h (50mph). Track day about 2 times a year.

The Koni springs - Sport, Race, Double Adjustable & Custom...
Which one do I chose? & Why?
Desired Spring rates... I thought that would've been determined by which springs i chose... so you have A. Touring, B. Aggressive, C. Race & Custom.
Love the colour options but I feel I want my whole system pewter... is that possible?

Is there Rear Top Mounts?

What would shipping by to Australia?

JDKane527 · 02-10-2013, 09:15 PM

Are the camber plates compatible with the Racecomp Engineering Tarmac Coilovers?

12-03-2012, 12:09 PM	#33
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