2013 981 Cayman

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Do you think Porsches intended market really cares about the price of options? If they want something for their $70K weekend driver they can afford it. No porsche is a financially justifiable option, but you arent buying it to think about squeezing pennies.

Cayman is super capable but a 911 is a 911.

aircooled > *

We're talking about watercooled Porsches here. In that case the Cayman chassis is more capable than the 911 will ever be; it just doesn't get the Michelin PSS and 3.8L engines since their "cheap" car can't be more expensive than their badge snob car.

Do I want a 911? Yes. Watercooled? Yes. Aircooled? Also yes. Would I rather have a Cayman S? Yes. Doesn't stop me from appreciating or wanting a 911, but the Cayman is just better engineering.

[chulooz]

'better engineering' is a very vague and general qualification.

They left a lot on the table for the stock Cayman, but if I was going to be modifying a Porsche it will damn well be a proper 930.

Though the boosted flat 4 they are introducing could be interesting.

[serialk11r]

Damn, I must be the only person in the world that thinks the 2.7L engine is really neat.

[bakerr6]

by far one of the best looking cars coming out today. Too bad it's made by a car company that pushes vehicles I cannot afford haha

[chulooz]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Damn, I must be the only person in the world that thinks the 2.7L engine is really neat.

Lots of people dont like their motor popping from IMS issues.

[gmookher]

I'll say the new cayman R is something to be dealt with ...theres a woman who drives one at the track, her lines needs much improvement but her car is really pretty fast

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Lots of people dont like their motor popping from IMS issues.

Oh, I was talking about the newer 2.7 unless those have problems too. On paper the new one looks very good, about 105Nm/L at the hp peak which is excellent, and they have a host of pretty wild features like electric oil pump (with dry sump of course).

The old 2.7 is garbage compared to the new one. I really wonder how Porsche got away with selling those turds in such expensive cars. Other manufacturers have to actually you know, sorta try a little when they sell a car at 50k.

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by chulooz

Lots of people dont like their motor popping from IMS issues.

These new cars don't have IMS issues, because they don't have an IMS.