why do people not like the sound tube?

[naikaidriver]

This is just my opinion but I don't like the sound tube. I think it is the same kind of phony gimmick as those fake BOV's that you could buy from Pep Boys a while back that were so, so popular with the poser crowd.

Hmmm, now that I think about it... equally lame were the phony, plastic "disk rotors", 8" exhaust tips, phony fire-extinguishers, and Type-R badges, Double-wiper blades, cherry bomb mufflers, and phony "spinner" hubcaps you could buy.

I have enough confidence in people to believe that nobody would put on a coat with fake, painted muscles on it and then pick a fight at a Gold's Gym. Kind of a similar logic though when people try to pass off their cars with capabilities they don't have and roll proudly around town.

Scott

[pr086]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

This is just my opinion but I don't like the sound tube. I think it is the same kind of phony gimmick as those fake BOV's that you could buy from Pep Boys a while back that were so, so popular with the poser crowd.

Hmmm, now that I think about it... equally lame were the phony, plastic "disk rotors", 8" exhaust tips, phony fire-extinguishers, and Type-R badges, Double-wiper blades, cherry bomb mufflers, and phony "spinner" hubcaps you could buy.

I have enough confidence in people to believe that nobody would put on a coat with fake, painted muscles on it and then pick a fight at a Gold's Gym. Kind of a similar logic though when people try to pass off their cars with capabilities they don't have and roll proudly around town.

Scott

thats the thing, the tube isn't producing a fake sound. it's simply routing the naturally occuring intake sound into the cabin.

[Yruyur]

Actually I think it is making a sound. In the larger section of the tubing there is a piece that blocks the tube creating wall. This is way the intake would not be sucking air from the inside of the vehicle. This "wall" is vibrating and passing a sound into the cabin. The trd sound changers limits or increases the amount of air getting to this "wall" to make it vibrate differently and making a different sound.

I'm pretty sure that's how it works.

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[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by pr086

thats the thing, the tube isn't producing a fake sound. it's simply routing the naturally occuring intake sound into the cabin.

My comparison merely points out that it does nothing to enhance performance but rather to make an engine SEEM louder and beefier than it is inside the car. All puff, no power. Functionally no different than the examples I gave.

Look, I'm not trying to offend anyone that likes the tube or any of the products I mentioned. I am not the "asshole" at car shows that ribs people on their taste. This is a discussion thread, and I only gave my opinion. Nothing more.

Scott

[Yruyur]

If someone does not like the sound tube try limiting or increasing the sound getting to the "wall".

Either clamp the tube or make your own. Here are the trd ones

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[naikaidriver]

Is it just me or does the blue one look like it has cutouts like a whistle? I bet that sounds AWESOME!

TWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET...TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEET....TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEET

Scott

[Yruyur]

I thought the same but I think it's a restriction in it. Could always add a duck call to it.

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[dawnst3ar]

"No, that isn't my fuel system chirping. I did that on purpose!"

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

I thought the same but I think it's a restriction in it. Could always add a duck call to it.

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Now THAT would be funny!

I can imagine how that would sound going through the gears!

Vrrrroooom... "quack" vrrroooooooooooooooooom... "quack" vrrrooooooooooooooooooooooom... "quack"


Scott

[Tomzilla]

Those of you mentioning the weight of the tube, niqquh please. 95% of you won't even track the car, me included, so the minimal weight gain (or loss when removed) won't even be noticed. Give me a break.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by dorifuto

I think the sound tube is worthless. If somebody put a sound tube on a civic or any other car they would be considered a complete ricer. There is no need for it.

A lot of newer cars are so well insulated (from not only sound, but also NVH) that part of the driving experience is lost. So that's why all of these manufacturers are starting to find ways to "artificially" pump sounds into the passenger compartment. People (especially enthusiasts) don't necessarily want to their cars to sound like a Prius.

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by White Shadow

A lot of newer cars are so well insulated (from not only sound, but also NVH) that part of the driving experience is lost. So that's why all of these manufacturers are starting to find ways to "artificially" pump sounds into the passenger compartment. People (especially enthusiasts) don't necessarily want to their cars to sound like a Prius.

While I do agree with you that enthusiasts don't want their cars sounding like a Prius, I'm starting to wonder if you own an FR-S based on your statement.

They aren't insulated or sound-proofed very well at all. Even on those econo-Prius tires the road noise is louder than my BMW was and that had Hankook RS3s all the way around.

The quietness from most modern engines is from the design of the airbox, intake, and exhaust systems. Thats why those are usually the first things that enthusiasts change out. (power gains not withstanding). Not from advances in sound-proofing unless you drive a Lexus.

Scott

[koyv90]

Wish there was a way to not have it by factory lol! I think its stupid.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

While I do agree with you that enthusiasts don't want their cars sounding like a Prius, I'm starting to wonder if you own an FR-S based on your statement.

They aren't insulated or sound-proofed very well at all. Even on those econo-Prius tires the road noise is louder than my BMW was and that had Hankook RS3s all the way around.

The quietness from most modern engines is from the design of the airbox, intake, and exhaust systems. Thats why those are usually the first things that enthusiasts change out. (power gains not withstanding). Not from advances in sound-proofing unless you drive a Lexus.

Scott

You might want to read my words again. I made no such claim about the FR-S or the BRZ. I was making a general comment about the reasons why so many sports/sporty cars are using sounds tubes or sound generators to pump engine noise into the passenger compartment.

BMW uses an engine sound track through it's audio system. Why? Because tuning out offensive NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) is such a big deal these days that the cars have essentially become too quiet. So what did they do? Well, they found a way to pump the desired noises back into the passenger compartment without allowing the unwanted noises in also. Generally, the vast majority of modern cars are MUCH more insulated from NVH compared to their older counterparts. THAT is the real reason why we're starting to see all this sound tube stuff on newer cars. Hell, even the new 5.0 Mustangs have a sound tube, and that's a V8 car with dual exhaust and a factory cold-air intake.