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Either way they don't sell to us, I emailed them and they referred my to rhdparts. New parts weren't listed :mad:
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I am sure this will get some gain. The Syms racing intake adds 8 whp/10 wtq.
The syms racing intake costs 1000 or 1300 depending which u get. Add an Avo or Zeta piping/a drop in filter like Works or Perrins or anyones and you can probably get even more gains. Works adds about 10 whp, and the piping is another 1. With all 3 together I am sure you will see some some good gains a lot better then other intakes which will suck in more hot air. I would rather the syms intake since it isnt so close to the ground. |
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![]() Any reason why this couldn't accomplish the same thing, less elegantly? |
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I think everyone who is saying this type of intake wont work is out of their minds. The OEM air scoop is so small making it bigger like how this intake duct does would definately see a little gain. Just because your other car that had a similar mod didnt perform well doesnt mean this duct will be the same. Different cars man. Its design is very similar to the Syms Intake which got +8 WHP and +10 WTQ. The Syms Intake performed a lot better then a lot of intakes we see available for the FR-S/BRZ. I mean look at the Airaid for example.. it lost power and costs just as much as this. Other cars have VERY nice intakes that are designed to keep the stock air box with fancy carbon fiber that push up the costs to basically where you can pay off half a FI kit.
Vortech is coming out with a S/C that uses the stock air scoop and this upgrade would be a great mod to add to the S/C in the future. If you ever are thinking of upgrading to a S/C this mod would be perfect for you since I am sure you would still be able to use it with Vortechs S/C kit. Their kits intake fits the OEM air scoop. So this would be beneficial for you until you upgrade to the S/C. I will probably be ordering this since I plan to get Vortechs S/C in the future when my warranty is over or that I feel that my car will run fine w/o any TSB's. I was thinking of getting a Syms Racing Intake but the price is just way too high. I love the design of it but this is very similar to that. The site even states that their really isnt much more power until you get to the higher RPM's which so far seems like almost every intake on the market has been operating for this car. Until I get the Vortech S/C I will probably get this along with a drop in filter like WORKS and an AVO or Zeta silicone tubing. Both of those add 10 and 1 WHP. Hopefully this intact duct, WORKS drop in filter, and either of the silicone tubings will compliment each other nicely. |
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FYI this mod wont really show on a dyno but will make a difference when the vehicle is in motion
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Ha ha.... "Ram air" on a road car... dream on
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Not to be an anal prick but there is nothing dynamic about it. I mean in the sense that nothing moves or changes shape. Looks cool though. Intake on this car is already super duper optimized.
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Well, physics is physics, no matter what car it's acting on. The reason that a lot of aftermarket intakes don't show much gain is the factory intake on these cars are optimized for the motor. They flow enough air to support the horsepower. You're just not going to get enough ram air effect to make a huge difference. Most of the difference will be because of the cooler air temperature. Of course, it's your money, so if it makes you feel faster then spend away. That's why I bought a Nameless axle back exhaust, it makes me feel faster when I row through the gears.
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I mean i bet it will make more power, but when it rains, driving behind cars that kick up water, squirrels, bugs... It would be GREAT for non rain days i think.
And to think the amount of snow that thing would suck in
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I had something like this on my S2k.
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Also for people saying it will cause hydrolock. Maybe if your an idiot then it will but I doubt it will if you are smart about it. You just dont submerge your car under water and you will be fine. And if you live in a place that doesnt rain that much like me then your golden. GruppeM has an intake box like this with 2 ducts and Syms has an intake duct that just changes the air scoop to a wider area. I doubt its a coincidence that the Japanese companies all have similar designs with how it catches air. I live in So Cal now so it isnt a problem for me and I would much rather give this a try then to waste my money on an Airaid intake that loses power. This most likely will be able to transfer to the Vortech Supercharger since it will fit the OEM air box. I doubt you would want to use the little OEM air scoop on something like the Vortech s/c. Airaids loses power... Injens does well but probably the ONLY intake I would even think of buying at the moment. You see a lot of companies like GruppeM and other companies that specialize in intakes stick with the stock air box on some cars because they were designed VERY well by the manufacturer. This is no different on this car. A lot of people even say not to upgrade the intake yet since most designs dont add any power worth changing from the stock air box. Search these forums and you will see that a lot of people are even saying to just change the drop in filter to an after market one because unless you want to change it because of the sound. That the after market intakes do not add sufficient power. So far the only one I have even see to be anything worth buying for its price is the Injen. Syms intake only changes the front portion of the air box and it gains +8 whp/+10 wtq. Show me another intake that does that right now. It also uses the STOCK AIR BOX, just like this intake duct but the syms is made of carbon fiber so it costs 5 times as much. Any other intake will just catch more hot air from the engine then cool air. Which is probably why the Airaid loses 5-6 whp instead of any performance gains. Many posters are saying to wait until a better intake is released such as Perrins where it is gauranteed to gain a good amount of power at a competitive price. Unfortunately to clean the Perrin's true CAI you gotta remove the bumper to reach the filter but I bet you it will perform better then any intake on the market right now when its out. People who are talking trash about this intake have never had a similar design on there car. Like the poster above me if you have owned an S2k then you will see some of the best intakes for that car use a similar design. Many other cars use very similar set ups like this and ussually those intakes are the best performing ones on that car. Unfortunately it usually is the most expensive intake just because it uses carbon fiber. Last edited by TwinRz; 11-15-2012 at 06:36 PM. |
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I tend to side with Twinz ^^^^ I talked to RHDJapan and I can now get the part. Not sure on the price or shipping. The biggest fault I see in all the intakes currently is the lack of air straightners.
![]() I read the Perrin post Perrin Jeff talks about how on a 3" intake the MAF Grams per second is lowered due to diameter. ![]() Most of these issues can be tuned out. But why screw with it ( the AFR). I am looking for a solution to a MAF insert that might have built in straightners. I am positive the straightners are in direct corelation to the grams per second the MAF Consume rate is. I left the stock air box on my 06 wagon, I had a drop in filter and a Provo scoop. With a VF39 turbo, Tomei header, and Tanabe full exhaust after my tune I hit 350 WHP and 333 WTQ. I have thought about changing air boxes there are a couple out there that would fit, funny thing about it, they all don't have air straighteners. And as far as hydro locking this unit up top, I leave that up to the U-Boat commanders.
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