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Old 11-11-2012, 11:00 AM   #15
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Noob question.

How important are sway bars for the person who DDs and does maybe 3-4 HPDEs a year?
Do you find the car leans in corners too much?
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:04 AM   #16
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Noob question.

How important are sway bars for the person who DDs and does maybe 3-4 HPDEs a year?
I'd do stiffer coils 1st
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:08 PM   #17
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Do you find the car leans in corners too much?
Haven't tracked it yet, first track day is coming up in a couple of weeks. Will know better then.
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Noob question.

How important are sway bars for the person who DDs and does maybe 3-4 HPDEs a year?
What's your goal? Learning to drive fast or getting fast lap times?
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:15 PM   #19
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What's your goal? Learning to drive fast or getting fast lap times?
Both, though can't have fast lap times without learning to drive fast.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:22 PM   #20
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Joe, what Tires you on?


same with



what tires, curious?
245 width michelin pilot super sport.

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Noob question.

How important are sway bars for the person who DDs and does maybe 3-4 HPDEs a year?
I'd say that coilovers should be first, then you should do sway bars, but that's only if you want to go with a lower ride height (which I think the majority of us do). With that said though, if you're going to at least 4 track days a year, I'd say that's worth it to go get sway bars as well... I've had great success with Hotchkis sway bars so far as well, you should take a look into those too
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:40 PM   #22
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as you address higher speeds, higher grip, I think the 22mm set soft may be interesting. some of this is gonna be about car setup dialability; ie, being able to switch to a race compounds. Interesting in trying both 20 and 22 after this thread
http://stranoparts.com/partdetails.p...234&ModelID=37

Here's a 22mm, price is right too...
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:58 PM   #23
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Supply issue on those, and prefer to not do hollow myself.
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Supply issue on those, and prefer to not do hollow myself.
Oh, didn't know it was hollow that explains the bigger diameter. I'll pass on that myself when i can get a Whiteline 20 for the same price.
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http://stranoparts.com/partdetails.p...234&ModelID=37

Here's a 22mm, price is right too...
A few are out and we've already won an SCCA National Event with that front bar. Had a little snafu (which I admit) bending the first full run of bars but I hope to have that fixed in the next week or so.

I also sell Whiteline's bars, and Eibach's too. And I can get Hotchkis. But, I think that the rear bar is fine for a 20mm or my 22mm front. I would not recommend (and say so on my website) the even the 16mm rear bar unless you have the adjustable and solid 22mm Whiteline, and I would not at all recommend the 18mm rear.

If you guys on facebook want so see I've got a little video posted over there... I'm running my car with the 22mm hollow front, stock rear bars, and in fact spring rates that are stiffer in front than in the rear... You can't see the steering wheel (I forgot my GoPro so I had to use my cell phone, oops), but understeer was in no way an issue. I drove an RX8 for day 2, which was not nearly as well balanced... but it had more power, so it was faster. But I knew that, with no tune, etc. I wanted to see what I had on handling vs. one of the class standards.
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Why not hollow? Lots of cars some OEM with hollow bars. Mustangs, Corvettes, Porsche, etc. EVERY race car because dragging weight around needlessly is just silly.

As for "supply issues". Well, I'm not some big multi-national company that can just do whatever I want right away. It takes time for small guys like me, and I am the epitome of a small business, to get such projects underway. And my bars on various cars have been super successful. I've won a number of national championships myself, but also a number of customers have too on bars I designed. As I said, so far we've already got an SCCA National Event win in the books.
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Oh, didn't know it was hollow that explains the bigger diameter. I'll pass on that myself when i can get a Whiteline 20 for the same price.
I sell the Whiteline too... And yes, it's a similar price (though I'm still @ $169 for mine), but for that similar price you get a lighter bar. I think that's a bargain.
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I sell the Whiteline too... And yes, it's a similar price (though I'm still @ $169 for mine), but for that similar price you get a lighter bar. I think that's a bargain.
I have some H tech springs which i see you sell too, do you think they would work well with your 22mm? I'm not extremely opposed to hollow but i've seen a lot of them break on the rear of Altima's that aren't even driven hard.
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