Couldn't wait for the FT-86 so I bought... the ZUK

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Mouse

Now go turbocharge it.

http://roadracemotorsports.com/store...roducts_id=345

Exactly what I was going to post.

[switchlanez]

And I see the xA, xB, and xD driven everywhere but hardly the SX4 though it arguably offers more for the same price. See my point of awareness?

Also, it's badged as the Fiat Sedici and designed by Italdesign Guigaro. Doesn't look exotic but still mighty for a subcompact.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by 4agze

I really didn't get why he did that maybe to justify his choice was great trying to convince people But turned out looking like a douchebag, Only suzuki i wanted was the swift but not sold here in the US

When the American consumer needs an affordable AWD car what's the first brand that comes to mind? That's the reason I posted that.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

When the American consumer needs an affordable AWD car what's the first brand that comes to mind? That's the reason I posted that.

JEEP! lol

FYI, base price SX4 AWD & Impreza is really close, $+-500 difference

[4agze]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

When the American consumer needs an affordable AWD car what's the first brand that comes to mind? That's the reason I posted that.

First on my mind is subaru cuz thats what they do all their car line up have awd, man you dont need to justify and try to defend the your sx4 im sure its a good car.

[solu]

Originally Posted by Abflug

sorry but



haha.. what´s a scion?! No, honestley before I come here to this forum I never heard about this brand, first I thought it was the American pendant to Daihatsu, but then I did a elaborate research and now I know and the only one I saw live was a boxy one driven by an US citizen here in Germany :happy0180:

same here. first got known to it as i did some research on autotrader etc... was about to get a pontiac gto and found the tC like a year ago. never bought one tho. Still, somehow i really like the brand scion esp. because noone over here in germany ever heard of it and it will make the FT-S quiet unique... prefer the fr-s over the ft-86 by far... dont know why... and the best thing will prolly be that i can use all the parts by toyota if something will break... wont have warranty but would lose it within time due to mods anyway....

[Abflug]

Originally Posted by solu

same here. first got known to it as i did some research on autotrader etc... was about to get a pontiac gto and found the tC like a year ago. never bought one tho. Still, somehow i really like the brand scion esp. because noone over here in germany ever heard of it and it will make the FT-S quiet unique... prefer the fr-s over the ft-86 by far... dont know why... and the best thing will prolly be that i can use all the parts by toyota if something will break... wont have warranty but would lose it within time due to mods anyway....

belive me, TOYOTA is the way to go not scion...HA

[82mm 4g63]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

The US just does not give this car the recognition it deserves.

Yes, it does.

Congrats on the new car though!

[switchlanez]

^Thanks!

Originally Posted by 4agze

First on my mind is subaru cuz thats what they do all their car line up have awd, man you dont need to justify and try to defend the your sx4 im sure its a good car.

Suzuki's entire American line-up has AWD + 7 year/100k powertrain warranty. Subaru and Jeep do not. Nor do they have the same global recognition. Like I said, Suzuki's US marketing sucks which makes Americans ignorant/unaware of what they're missing (like I once was) but the quality is there...

Nice "thud" when I shut my doors or hatch, gearshifts and clutch are super smooth, steering wheel has the right size and meatiness + controls, ride quality is great. Not trying to defend my car... I'm trying to show pride! lol

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

JEEP! lol

FYI, base price SX4 AWD & Impreza is really close, $+-500 difference

Yeah, but the warranty is unmatched. Dealers rarely stock fully stripped base models so you gotta compare w/ options. Then the price difference becomes huge. The tech package (bluetooth/nav/mp3+aux jack/fogs/heated mirrors+seats) only cost me $1550. A base Impreza w/ only bluetooth + aux jack (couldn't even find a navi option) already costs $800 more than my fully loaded car and a fully loaded Impreza costs $7k more than mine. I'm moving to a snowy area and really wanted an Impreza but after some cross-shopping the SX4 came out on top.

[Ricepuddin]

I drove one of those (awd variant) and the gear box made me want to punch a baby.

Congrats on the new ride, not my cup of tea.

[solu]

Originally Posted by Abflug

belive me, TOYOTA is the way to go not scion...HA

NOOOOPE. Scions seemed always alot nicer to me. + alot cheaper. just compare the tC to the toyota version of it. the toyota version of it turns out to be crap

[switchlanez]

^I can believe that. Scion is ranked best in quality/reliability according to USA Today and Consumer Reports. Plus I've driven Scions... doesn't necessarily have premium materials but build quality sure is there.

Again, it's all about how people perceive the brand thanks to what? Marketing.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by switchlanez

^Thanks!


Suzuki's entire American line-up has AWD + 7 year/100k powertrain warranty. Subaru and Jeep do not. Nor do they have the same global recognition. Like I said, Suzuki's US marketing sucks which makes Americans ignorant/unaware of what they're missing (like I once was) but the quality is there...

Nice "thud" when I shut my doors or hatch, gearshifts and clutch are super smooth, steering wheel has the right size and meatiness + controls, ride quality is great. Not trying to defend my car... I'm trying to show pride! lol



Yeah, but the warranty is unmatched. Dealers rarely stock fully stripped base models so you gotta compare w/ options. Then the price difference becomes huge. The tech package (bluetooth/nav/mp3+aux jack/fogs/heated mirrors+seats) only cost me $1550. A base Impreza w/ only bluetooth + aux jack (couldn't even find a navi option) already costs $800 more than my fully loaded car and a fully loaded Impreza costs $7k more than mine. I'm moving to a snowy area and really wanted an Impreza but after some cross-shopping the SX4 came out on top.

You will experience more snow in WA in general than you will in KS. KS you'll get a few snow storms at best in a general winter.

[switchlanez]

^Doesn't it depend on region? In Seattle/Bellevue it rarely snows (like 2 days last winter). In Kansas City they salt the roads and the apartment I'll live in does a courtesy snow shoveling service on driveways. I still haven't found out exactly how often it snows but it sounds like a full-on snow season over there.