Considering the Ground Control Setup

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by celica73

Are the rear shocks adjustable (on the car)? I don't see an adjuster anywhere.

Yes, the rears are adjustable. We are using Koni single adjustable shocks on the FRS/BRZ.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by GC_Adam

Yes, the rears are adjustable. We are using Koni 30 Series single adjustable shocks on the FRS/BRZ.

Spring off for adjustment (button like a normal series 30)?? Can you modify them to be externally adjustable as an option?

I love this stuff! If I wasn't going with another vendor/ITR Expo Sponsor I'd be ordering this setup.

[CBR600RR]

So if I use the GC set up on my stock shocks - what is the min and max lowering capability?

I would hope something like: OEM ride hight to 2" drop. (good for winter and summer)

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CBR600RR

how much is this?

$2,200 list based on their website, without any extra charge options (custom colors, double adjustable front strut, koni race front strut instead of sport, etc). Maybe a charge for custom rates (back in the day it was an upcharge, not sure about that anymore).

http://www.ground-control-store.com/.../II=925/CA=205

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CBR600RR

So if I use the GC set up on my stock shocks - what is the min and max lowering capability?

I would hope something like: OEM ride hight to 2" drop. (good for winter and summer)

2" drop is massive unless you run larger diameter tires, I'm running slightly shorter with Eibach Sportline's (~1.4") and much lower and it would be too low. Now if you ran larger diameter tires I could see it since you'd gain some back in the tire height.

[CBR600RR]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

2" drop is massive unless you run larger diameter tires, I'm running slightly shorter with Eibach Sportline's (~1.4") and much lower and it would be too low. Now if you ran larger diameter tires I could see it since you'd gain some back in the tire height.

I agree 2" is a LOT.. but thaving the extra range would be nice - I'd likely not drop much more than 1" (my drive way is kinda steep)

what is most important is the ability to run OEM hight for winter driving.

[GC_Adam]

All of our kits/systems are height adjustable so for those of you that are concerned about winter ride height you can return your back to stock with in a short amount of time.

[Mechazawa]

Thank you Adam, looks like a good value when you factor in the super cool camber plates and the bling bling STB. More questions.

Will these leave the springs uncompressed at full droop like my old GC setup on the bimmer did? If so can that be addressed with some helper springs? and at what cost?

Also, do the provided strut housings still permit the use of "crash bolts"?

Weight of all the parts would be nice too?

Do you feel like the STB serves a useful purpose in this application? Some may want to skip it to save a few pounds and a few bucks, or because it doesn't clear an innovate (still a little shocked myself) supercharger.

[mines13]

Very interesting, I have had good luck with GC stuff in the past myself.

[GC_Adam]

Originally Posted by Mechazawa

Thank you Adam, looks like a good value when you factor in the super cool camber plates and the bling bling STB. More questions.

Will these leave the springs uncompressed at full droop like my old GC setup on the bimmer did? If so can that be addressed with some helper springs? and at what cost?

Also, do the provided strut housings still permit the use of "crash bolts"?

Weight of all the parts would be nice too?

Do you feel like the STB serves a useful purpose in this application? Some may want to skip it to save a few pounds and a few bucks, or because it doesn't clear an innovate (still a little shocked myself) supercharger.

Mechazawa,

1. Yes, When at full droop the springs will be uncompressed, but this is generally not a problem when the vehicle is on the ground. You do have the option (at an additional charge) of using a "helper spring" setup.

2. Yes ,our strut housings do allow the use of the factory "crash bolt".

3. The weight difference between a factory strut mount/upper spring perch and our camber plate/spring perch is about .25 #. The stress bar weights in at less then 4 pounds.

4. Our stress bar is designed with function in mind. The farther the strut towers are away from the firewall, the more flex you are going to experience in the engine bay. Our bar is significantly more robust than any other bar we've seen on the market.

[Mechazawa]

I have to admit, I'm so impressed with the engineering that I'm tempted to spring (no pun intended) for the whole package, even though it's absolute overkill for my daily driver.

[gmookher]

spring rates?

[mines13]

Originally Posted by gmookher

spring rates?

That is the wonderful thing about Ground Control, you can have whatever spring rates you want.

[gmookher]

how does something like this compare to kw3?