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alexdee · 01-27-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenji

http://www.corvette7.com

Saw the big interest in the C7 discussions here on FT86. Corvette7 seems like a good enthusiast blog and forums for the C7. Been following it for a couple days.

Joined. Had to give up my 86 dreams so will be back market for a new car in 2 years. Hopefully to be in a C7 by then.

RogerR · 01-27-2013, 07:38 PM

Unlike the C4 which was designed to have a roof structure but was turned into a targa at the last minute, the C5-7 were all designed to be basically an open top car from the beginning. The fixed roof cars did gain some strength for having a closed top but really most of the car's torsional stiffness comes from the large, fully boxed transmission tunnel.

You can see the plate (aftermarket in this case) which closes the center tunnel of a C5 or C6 in this link
http://www.vettesupply.com/c6-tunnel...-by-elite-eng/

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-27-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

GM offered the C5 in a Fixed Roof Coupe built off of the convertible in 1999 and 2000 with the LS1, stick only, and I believe Z51 suspension. This car was a notchback with a trunk. Then in 2001, they took that body and made it the Z06 and gave it bespoke suspension and the LS6. The C6 Z06 and ZR1s both had fixed roofs. However, unlike the C5 Z06, they retained a rear hatch. The Z06 had a painted Sheet Molded Composite (plastic, like the rest of the body) painted roof that initially had a habit of becoming unbonded from it's frame and flying off. The ZR1 had a carbon fiber roof panel and halo. The weight savings were negligible as SMC is already fairly light.

This

fatoni · 01-27-2013, 08:47 PM

another thing that makes the carbon roof stupid is that the paint on that thing is like six figures per gallon iirc

RogerR · 01-27-2013, 09:08 PM

The paint on the old CF roof was that expensive (well one part of it). That isn't to say the new process isn't cheaper. GM said they had pushed a lot of cost out of things like the CF parts and the alloy chassis.

I am sad to see the wood floors going away. The balsa core used on the C5 and C6 is now replaced with an expanded structural foam. I thought it was cool that the Corvette was the only volume car to use wood as a structural part. Yes, there was wood in the car's interior. It was under your feet.

LSxJunkie · 01-27-2013, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerR

The paint on the old CF roof was that expensive (well one part of it). That isn't to say the new process isn't cheaper. GM said they had pushed a lot of cost out of things like the CF parts and the alloy chassis.

I am sad to see the wood floors going away. The balsa core used on the C5 and C6 is now replaced with an expanded structural foam. I thought it was cool that the Corvette was the only volume car to use wood as a structural part. Yes, there was wood in the car's interior. It was under your feet.

Morgan would be happy to sell you....oh wait. Never mind.

RogerR · 01-27-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LSxJunkie

Morgan would be happy to sell you....oh wait. Never mind.

I did say volume. Yes, Morgan is the largest British car company but the volume is still rather low.

Dimman · 01-27-2013, 11:53 PM

^ Chuckled.

Then I got a bit sad...

bakerr6 · 01-28-2013, 10:28 AM

I'm going to join also. I know the next vehicle we have to buy is a truck (wife's SUV tows the boat atm), but then I can probably buy another toy haha.

I'm never getting rid of the fr-s though. Perfect first car for my kid(s) if I ever have any

swift996 · 01-30-2013, 01:53 PM

TRASH!!

2014 and still using push rods and rear leaf suspension. What exactly are you paying for? If I want a fast boat, I'll buy one that floats.

ZDan · 01-30-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

2014 and still using push rods and rear leaf suspension. What exactly are you paying for? If I want a fast boat, I'll buy one that floats.

Either you haven't followed this thread, or you haven't understood what you read.

BTW, composite leaf spring at the front as well as rear.

Ryephile · 01-30-2013, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-30-2013, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swift996

TRASH!!

LOL

Whatever...

swift996 · 01-30-2013, 04:23 PM

I haven't been following, just pointing out the obvious. I want my performance solution to be engineered. The new C7 tells the story of exactly why GM will fail again. They think this gimmick retro look will wow baby boomers with discretionary accounts.

01-30-2013, 01:53 PM	#416
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01-30-2013, 04:23 PM	#420
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RogerR Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: -- Location: Was Cali Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unlike the C4 which was designed to have a roof structure but was turned into a targa at the last minute, the C5-7 were all designed to be basically an open top car from the beginning. The fixed roof cars did gain some strength for having a closed top but really most of the car's torsional stiffness comes from the large, fully boxed transmission tunnel. You can see the plate (aftermarket in this case) which closes the center tunnel of a C5 or C6 in this link http://www.vettesupply.com/c6-tunnel...-by-elite-eng/

01-27-2013, 08:47 PM	#410
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,442 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	another thing that makes the carbon roof stupid is that the paint on that thing is like six figures per gallon iirc

01-27-2013, 09:08 PM	#411
RogerR Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: -- Location: Was Cali Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The paint on the old CF roof was that expensive (well one part of it). That isn't to say the new process isn't cheaper. GM said they had pushed a lot of cost out of things like the CF parts and the alloy chassis. I am sad to see the wood floors going away. The balsa core used on the C5 and C6 is now replaced with an expanded structural foam. I thought it was cool that the Corvette was the only volume car to use wood as a structural part. Yes, there was wood in the car's interior. It was under your feet.

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bakerr6 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 raven black fr-s Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 503 Thanked 443 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm going to join also. I know the next vehicle we have to buy is a truck (wife's SUV tows the boat atm), but then I can probably buy another toy haha. I'm never getting rid of the fr-s though. Perfect first car for my kid(s) if I ever have any

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