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Old 04-07-2014, 03:05 PM   #23325
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So how do you like those lifts? I have the Kwik Lift and while I like it I hate that its heavy as hell and huge. I actually put it up for sale because I was thinking about grabbing a lift like that and there is one here locally for sale.

On another note maybe my eye's are playing tricks on me but where is your rear sway bar in that picture?
I have 3 lifts in total (two-post, mid-lift, and a four post), that one just happen to be the most convenient for me to work on his car at the time. That one is usually the one I use for suspension and corner balancing. Space isn't too much of a concern for me though as I have lots of room. There is regularly 6 cars in the shop at once and more outside.

Your eyes were not playing tricks, there is no sway bar on the front or the rear of the car right now. I removed them in preparation for the new ones to arrive tomorrow.

It isn't uncommon for people to remove sway bars all together though. You can get very similar results by playing with individual spring rates and as a matter of fact one of the members on here regularly runs his car on the track without them (makes my life easier when weighing peoples cars too haha.)

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There's a one day track event in May. Hopefully you can catch some action then. Glad to take you for a ride along!

This weekend was a ton of fun, and the 86ers group out there keeps getting bigger! I believe there were six of us this time.

West track was sooo much more difficult/technical to drive than East.

Hopefully I'll have some time tonight to cut some of the gopro footage I got
I am aware of the event in May as well. I appreciate the offer for the ride but I really just need to get back out on the track myself. I am always too busy at the damn shop to get out to the track anymore and have fun. I plan to be at the next AMP event so hopefully things work out. I was more or less going to come watch you guys to see if there was anything I could recommend to assist you in your skills. I always get the best idea of what drivers may need though by doing a ride along. It also gives me a much better idea of suspension adjustments that would best benefit your style of driving. Last time I was on the track it was rare to see more than myself with the 86 and maybe one other now and then.

West is one of my favorite local tracks. AMP is right up there too. West would be number one if they would clean the track up some unless they have and I just didn't know. Main was a blast too when you go out there with high HP cars to take advantage of the uber awesome straight. That was one of the only tracks I raced where I would regularly shoot rooster tails of sparks from the front brakes coming into turn number one with aggressive pads. That track brought out everyone who had fast cars braking flaws. If you are to see glowing rotors that was the one to watch.
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:13 PM   #23326
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NP just started the batch with my fp/op order. Means I should be getting it in a week or so .

Going to need a tech day in a few weeks to get it installed. Might as well do the trans fluid swap then too while I'm at it.

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Old 04-07-2014, 03:27 PM   #23327
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Not having them can make just as much sense as having them. Let say you want to induce more push (can help with too much power into turns) you run a really stiff front sway, but none in the rear. It will make the rear flex more and the tires will bite a bit more pavement. Doing the opposite can induce Oversteer.

When I was racing, I used to change shock stiffness, tire pressures, sway/tie set up, and fuel amounts based on track and lap amounts. I had all those at my will and couldn't afford anything but used bottom dollar tires.

Granted, I was doing that on an AWD, so I imagine there would be a difference between RWD and AWD in the way it reacted.
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Old 04-07-2014, 03:33 PM   #23328
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Interesting, with that lift what do you find to be a pain in the ass to work on?

On Sway Bars I am not an expert in suspension by any means I know what I like in terms of feel but that's it. Compared to when I bought the car I like the way it feels with the new sway bars but until I can hit another Marana Airfield event I will not know how it feels on the track and the turbo will also make a difference now the question is how much... I expect it to be pretty much useless but we shall see.

Maybe at some point I will spend more time doing so it looks like fun but for me I seem to pref. to build things and then move on to the next thing... I guess I should stop that and start enjoying them more.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:19 PM   #23329
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The rear mount will for sure help with your front to rear weight distribution since the car is biased toward the front in stock form.

That particular mid-lift I can do literally anything job on it.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:56 PM   #23330
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Fyi for anyone who has an interest in true competitive tracking our car starts off in the D class. The car performs great in that class with basic performance upgrades like wheels, tires, suspension, and tuning. However once you add in power such as F.I. or headers you're now pushing up into C class where competition will be "faster".

Just thought this was good to know as learning about the competitive race pt system has caused me to adjust my selection of upgrades.

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Old 04-07-2014, 05:59 PM   #23331
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This site is fantastic for the "physics of racing". It will teach you everything from weight transfer to calculating drag and all the way through to suspension. Based on a miata (RWD platform), this is what I used when I used to work on a formula atlantic race car, which was powered by the 4age16v and 4age20v motors between the two seasons I did. It will be a long read, but it's great information. -- I applied this to a 1995 honda civic ex rally car I was driving when I lived in CA and it didn't solve all of my problems but gave me great information to formulate ideas for all solutions. I have it printed in a binder at home.
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:07 PM   #23332
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Spotted a white fr-s in a parking lot around 15th ave and deer valley. Left a you've been spotted card. Anybody here? Name:  uploadfromtaptalk1396908449994.jpg
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Lol I wish I had some of those you've been spotted cards. I did the creepy thing and waited by someone's car and acted like I was peering in the window. When the guy came out and asked if he could help me, I unlocked my car so he didn't beat my ass and told him about the forum. haha
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Old 04-07-2014, 07:54 PM   #23334
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Lol I wish I had some of those you've been spotted cards. I did the creepy thing and waited by someone's car and acted like I was peering in the window. When the guy came out and asked if he could help me, I unlocked my car so he didn't beat my ass and told him about the forum. haha

Lol that's pretty funny
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Still haven't figured out who the other FR-S who lives near me is. It's whiteout and tagged with #158 for auto-x.
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Every FRS I see I wave at and they just stare at me like I'm a weirdo haha
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Looking for someone with an O2 socket in the east valley that wouldn't mind loaning it for a few. Tried using a crescent but was extremely difficult. Not 100% sure on the size but i think it may be a 14
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Hey guys I will be looking to sell my jdl auto design header in a few weeks . The header over pipe and front pipe after a tune made sooooo much difference in power and the dip is pretty much gone I say pretty much cuz I street tuned not dyno

Reason for selling lets just say NA didn't bring the smile to my face I was hoping for so I'm going jdl turbo kit now

Asking price will be 770 I payed 860+ tax. the header has 12 days on the car as of today

This is my number lmk who would be a serious buyer so we can have something set up for once it comes off . 6025036833
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