Did Toyota bribe every car journalist? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

///Murph · 08-27-2012, 08:24 PM

Sports cars can have muscle and good handling.

the M3 smashes the FR-S in every category..... although is twice as much....

ST185RC · 08-27-2012, 08:39 PM

Dear Toyota, I will tattoo Scion or Toyota or Subaru, or a combination of the three brands if I am rewarded with something as little as a TRD package in whiteout. Will accept a tattoo of a dookie on my forehead if it hurries the development of the new supra. I'll take the hit for all you guys.

Pscylo · 08-27-2012, 08:40 PM

Ask him if a Lotus Elise is a sports car....then point out its bhp.

tnt · 08-27-2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Murph

Sports cars can have muscle and good handling.

the M3 smashes the FR-S in every category..... although is twice as much....

There's your answer - the damn price !

registered4this · 08-27-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Murph

Sports cars can have muscle and good handling.

the M3 smashes the FR-S in every category..... although is twice as much....

I'd put the M3 in more of the grand tourer category. At least, the newest generation.

FRSowner · 08-27-2012, 08:52 PM

To some, the truest of the true sports cars were the British sports cars of the 50's - 70's (MG, Triumph, etc.). I don't think many of them had over 100HP, yet they were/are fun to drive and set the standards of sports cars that we still use today.
BTW, technically, the FR-S/BRZ is NOT a true sports car. Traditionally, a sports car only has two seats and to the real purists, has to be a roadster (convertible), not a hardtop (fixed head coupe).

Also BTW, the Chevy Corvette, which some consider to be the ULTIMATE sports car, was a slug in the 1970's. 150 - 200 HP, mid 15's - 16's in the 1/4 mile, 0 - 60 in about 8 - 9 seconds, and maybe .70 on the skidpad.

njccmd2002 · 08-27-2012, 09:02 PM

lol this made my day. I just bought a grocery go getter.

white_knight · 08-28-2012, 03:02 AM

Funny replies.

But yes, he's just being a ****head about the whole thing. He's the type to write off anything under the $60K price tag, the guy that will ask you "how's your Toyota going?" LOL.

Just can't wait to pick mine up and take him for a spin once and for all

jmaryt · 08-28-2012, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white_knight

My brother isn't a fan of the 86... at all.

He hasn't driven it, but is adamant that a sports car with only 200HP is not a sports car at all.

I argue that it wasn't built for speed, but for handling.

He replies "Of course! I'd be concerned if you couldn't handle a car that slow!"

I then mention how every car journalist has rates the car.

His argument is that Toyota paid off every car journalist... either with money or by giving them an actual 86.

I said "that's ridiculous".

He said "well it does explain why you can't even buy one - cos they gave them all away!"

He's good for a laugh, thought I'd share this.

sounds to me like the man's a "muscle car" freak!

j.t.

quik1987 · 08-28-2012, 03:28 AM

Punch your brother in the face for me. Say it's from the forum. Post video.

yormaX · 08-28-2012, 03:28 AM

Lol You guys in Australia are not supposed to get anything RWD from Subaru anyways. All of the models that are sold in Australia has to be 4WD.

Source: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFidmVm61fU&feature=plcp"]Subaru BRZ Review - YouTube[/ame]

Veloist · 08-28-2012, 03:55 AM

That was pretty funny haha!

But you can't determine what a sports car is by numbers. It's biased and therefore invalid reasoning...the first sports cars probably had like 30hp and in the mid 20th 200hp was plenty of HP.

The way I see it, defining sports cars is like defining sex...

ragingSPAM · 08-28-2012, 06:56 AM

Being a journalist myself, I have to say Toyota did NOT pay us off. If you've ever driven the car and had a chance to actually experience the car, for what it was originally designed for, its one amazing piece of machinery. Having driven the car a few times before I got mine was what inspired me to get one.

SUB-FT86 · 08-28-2012, 08:38 AM

He is right about one thing. The power output of cars like the FRS/BRZ help to preserve its handling balance. Im pretty sure those V8 MX5's don't handle as well as the 4 cylinder base versions.

08-27-2012, 08:52 PM	#48
FRSowner Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Hot Lava A/T Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 123 Thanks: 13 Thanked 209 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	To some, the truest of the true sports cars were the British sports cars of the 50's - 70's (MG, Triumph, etc.). I don't think many of them had over 100HP, yet they were/are fun to drive and set the standards of sports cars that we still use today. BTW, technically, the FR-S/BRZ is NOT a true sports car. Traditionally, a sports car only has two seats and to the real purists, has to be a roadster (convertible), not a hardtop (fixed head coupe). Also BTW, the Chevy Corvette, which some consider to be the ULTIMATE sports car, was a slug in the 1970's. 150 - 200 HP, mid 15's - 16's in the 1/4 mile, 0 - 60 in about 8 - 9 seconds, and maybe .70 on the skidpad. Last edited by FRSowner; 08-27-2012 at 10:25 PM.

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08-27-2012, 08:24 PM	#43
///Murph Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Raven Location: Winston Salem, NC Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sports cars can have muscle and good handling. the M3 smashes the FR-S in every category..... although is twice as much....

08-27-2012, 08:39 PM	#44
ST185RC Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White Out FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 672 Thanks: 31 Thanked 511 Times in 242 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dear Toyota, I will tattoo Scion or Toyota or Subaru, or a combination of the three brands if I am rewarded with something as little as a TRD package in whiteout. Will accept a tattoo of a dookie on my forehead if it hurries the development of the new supra. I'll take the hit for all you guys.

08-27-2012, 09:02 PM	#49
njccmd2002 Toyota Freak Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Whiteout FRS Location: Jackson, TN Posts: 364 Thanks: 47 Thanked 150 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lol this made my day. I just bought a grocery go getter.

08-28-2012, 03:02 AM	#50
white_knight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 86 GTS - Pegasus White Location: Sydney, AU Posts: 237 Thanks: 88 Thanked 103 Times in 53 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Funny replies. But yes, he's just being a ****head about the whole thing. He's the type to write off anything under the $60K price tag, the guy that will ask you "how's your Toyota going?" LOL. Just can't wait to pick mine up and take him for a spin once and for all

08-28-2012, 03:28 AM	#52
quik1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Bugatti Veyron Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 141 Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Punch your brother in the face for me. Say it's from the forum. Post video.

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yormaX Rage your Dream Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2015 Scion FR-S Location: Canada, SK Posts: 227 Thanks: 76 Thanked 125 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol You guys in Australia are not supposed to get anything RWD from Subaru anyways. All of the models that are sold in Australia has to be 4WD. Source: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFidmVm61fU&feature=plcp"]Subaru BRZ Review - YouTube[/ame]

08-28-2012, 03:55 AM	#54
Veloist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: ‘93 MR2, ‘22 GR86, ‘23 GR Corolla Location: N. California Posts: 1,525 Thanks: 700 Thanked 1,713 Times in 668 Posts Mentioned: 75 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That was pretty funny haha! But you can't determine what a sports car is by numbers. It's biased and therefore invalid reasoning...the first sports cars probably had like 30hp and in the mid 20th 200hp was plenty of HP. The way I see it, defining sports cars is like defining sex...

08-28-2012, 06:56 AM	#55
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SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	He is right about one thing. The power output of cars like the FRS/BRZ help to preserve its handling balance. Im pretty sure those V8 MX5's don't handle as well as the 4 cylinder base versions.

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