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Old 08-26-2012, 12:35 PM   #29
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You will have more wins by doing autox, instead of the drag strip. Unless you heavily mod your car.
Exce[t doing auto x also requires you to have a good launch as well.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:53 PM   #30
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Because when I said "bypass it" I mean to completly remove it. Not have to fight with the break the, some time, make it work. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I don't know if you race sir, but you don't have much time to fight with your break at the racing line. Having to "search for a sweet spot on your break, than give some gaz, if you start moving you then.. " no.. if you start moving, it's a false start and you lose.

I basically want it removed and I guess the only way is to flash the computer and retune it. I'll try that..
Sports cars aren't built for drag strips, they're meant to turn. xD Even so, if you were going to seriously track this car, why in the world did you go Auto?

I have an auto, but I'm only going to track a few times every few months or so. I got the 86 more as a touring car and DD so the auto fit my needs perfectly. It's an amazing automatic transmission, but no way in hell suitable for drag racing. Hell, this entire car isn't suitable for drag racing.

To answer question, reflashing the ECU will probably void the warranty on the ECU. Iirc, the warranty applies to almost every individual part of the car since they're technically all separate products and you're just buying a package deal of them. So you're ECU will be voided, but the rest of the car won't. DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT, I just thought I read that somewhere on here and too lazy to find where.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #31
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Easy solution, don't drag race a car that is not fast in a straight line. What were you up against, a Sienna or a Odyssey?
I was against.. a BRZ. I don't know what's wrong with you guys. Racing in drag isn't about only winning, but having FUN with your car. I'm only racing against car with about the same power as me.

The thing is, I can't have 100% of the fun if I can't launch it correctly.

I know this is a lapping car and drift. I am lapping.. I am drifting. The thing is, most of my friend are racing in drag and it cost a lot less, so yeah, I plan to Drag for fun. I don't know how it's your business and what is has to do with this thread's discussion.
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #32
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:09 PM   #33
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Yeah obviously you guys are either douches or can't read. This thread is NOT about Drag. It's not about if this is a good car for drag or if I can win. I'm racing in Drag because it's fun, and im racing against BRZ and stuff like that. What's the problem? Why does it matter?

If you can't answer the question, don't reply stupid stuff like that. Obviously I KNOW it's not a drag racing car. Duh. I'm lapping and drifting once a month, but most of my friends are going to drag race because it cost less money and is still fun.

The point of this thread "/thread" is to know if anyone could get ride of this fail-security. It seems not. And no, im not going for the MT, for the first time in my life, I think the AT > MT. Yeah.
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:11 PM   #34
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Well obviously if you're gonna post a thread like this you're going to open yourself up for this kind of criticism. It is what it is. If you're getting up tight about it that's a 'YOU' issue, just ignore it and move on to the the helpful posts.

And if you're friends are into drag racing then, IMHO, you don't always have to follow what your friends do, find yourself a new set of friends who can show you what cars like these are designed for, or you should have gotten a car built for drag (ie American Muscle).

Good luck trying to fix your "issue".
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Who truely expects to "sport" an automatic? Auto trannys may work for drag racers, but if you purchased an FRS / BRZ to drag race then you have already lost. (unless you plan to SC or Turbo Charge to the tune of 300hp or more)
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:34 PM   #36
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Who truely expects to "sport" an automatic? Auto trannys may work for drag racers, but if you purchased an FRS / BRZ to drag race then you have already lost. (unless you plan to SC or Turbo Charge to the tune of 300hp or more)
Did you actually know that it's not an AT, its a semi-manual. You can shift like a manual, it's the same. Actually, it's better, since you can't miss your gear like in MT.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:36 PM   #37
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And if you're friends are into drag racing then, IMHO, you don't always have to follow what your friends do, find yourself a new set of friends who can show you what cars like these are designed for, or you should have gotten a car built for drag (ie American Muscle).

Good luck trying to fix your "issue".
Lol really.. change my friends because they like to drag? What kind of advice are you guys giving on this forum /sigh.

It's not because your car isn't "made for drag" that you can't enjoy it? What's wrong with you guys.

Anyway, I'll check out soon to flash the computer. I should be able to remove this issue, also increase my HP and Torques.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:32 PM   #38
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It is not a semi manual.....its a fully automatic transmission with a torque converter just like the ones found in every other Toyota in the world.

I'm beginning to think you're just trolling with that statement.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:34 PM   #39
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Did you actually know that it's not an AT, its a semi-manual. You can shift like a manual, it's the same. Actually, it's better, since you can't miss your gear like in MT.
It's a traditional torque converter manual, it's just a good one.
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It is not a semi manual.....its a fully automatic transmission with a torque converter just like the ones found in every other Toyota in the world.

I'm beginning to think you're just trolling with that statement.
and you're probably trolling if you think it's a "normal converter". Ive tested many converter, they all sucked. All my car (or so) were MT and when I tried this one, I went crazy over the AT. But that's not the point of the thread. If you're happy with your MT, that's cool. It's old school, people will always feel that MT is the only way to go for racer. Things change. I like MT, but my feeling is that AT (on that car) was better for lapping imo or drag.
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I don't have an MT. I have the same transmission you have. The transmission may have paddle shifters but it's not a "semi-automatic". The transmission may make you "go crazy" but that doesn't change the fact that is a hydraulic torque converter with the same basic setup AT's have had for years. Nothing groundbreaking.
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Actually it is quite different than most transmissions that Toyota makes. It actually locks up in gears 2-6 when in manual mode if I am not mistaken. Making the trans more like a DCT or manual than most may think as there is no parasitic loss.

For those of you dogging on this kid for asking a legitimate question that is an ACTUAL problem I say fuck off.

He never asked what you all thought about drag racing this car.

The point remains that the auto has a lot of upside and one major downfall and that is the launching. Drag racing is not the only place you need to have a decent launch in. Auto-X is another great example.

There is no fix yet. It has been brought to Visconti attention though I would not expect anything anytime soon because of the work load he has put himself into.

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