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Le86 · 10-27-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mhigham

Thanks! I have been patient but I have really just lost all interest in this car. Im not even excited to get it back, its just another plain car that I want to get rid of at the moment. Add to the fact when I do get it back, ECU might (likely) not even be the fix.

I feel exactly the same way. Although I'm excited to get my car back, I am still a little concerned that the ECU won't fix the problem, despite being reassured by the service director and case manager. My automotive experience says otherwise.

mhigham · 10-27-2012, 10:36 PM

I have officially asked about taking ECU off new car, wont hear until Monday. He said they checked dealer inventory nationwide and there are no ECU's in stock.

Still hoping to have car back this coming week, but its not looking good. Even after I get it back, then they still have to diagnose/fix HPFP for crickets. I hope thats not another week repair!

Le86 · 10-27-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mhigham

I have officially asked about taking ECU off new car, wont hear until Monday. He said they checked dealer inventory nationwide and there are no ECU's in stock.

Still hoping to have car back this coming week, but its not looking good. Even after I get it back, then they still have to diagnose/fix HPFP for crickets. I hope thats not another week repair!

I considered asking that too but you have to account for the production date of the donor vehicle as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they implemented the revised ECU until late September.

mhigham · 10-27-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Le86

I feel exactly the same way. Although I'm excited to get my car back, I am still a little concerned that the ECU won't fix the problem, despite being reassured by the service director and case manager. My automotive experience says otherwise.

I have little confidence in the ECU being the fix but I so hope it is!

mhigham · 10-27-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Le86

I considered asking that too but you have to account for the production date of the donor vehicle as well. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they implemented the revised ECU until late September.

Very true, and I dont know if auto/manual ECU's are the same.

Le86 · 10-27-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mhigham

Very true, and I dont know if auto/manual ECU's are the same.

They're generally different but may work in some cases. I was running an s15 SR20 in my old 240 and found out that my ECU was taken from an auto s15. Keep in mind that I was using an s13 5 speed tranny, not the s15 6 speed, either. Frankenstein swap

As far as the FR-S/BRZ ECUs go, I have no idea. New technology is much more strict on things like these.

Rob_g · 10-27-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mhigham

Very true, and I dont know if auto/manual ECU's are the same.

In the case of this car, I think the answer is no. There was a reply elsewhere someone had their ecu replaced, but it was for the wrong type of tranny and it did not work.

Rob

Rob_g · 10-27-2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mhigham

I have little confidence in the ECU being the fix but I so hope it is!

It's maybe 'a fix', but not a %100 fix in my opinion. It doesn't fix idle dip and my FR-S also has a throttle hesitation (like traction control kicked in) at low rpm which I don't think it had before the ECU swap.

Car goes in the shop AGAIN next friday for another tail light replacement. I'm going to ask for a loaner.

Rob

Sargy · 10-28-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_g

It's maybe 'a fix', but not a %100 fix in my opinion. It doesn't fix idle dip and my FR-S also has a throttle hesitation (like traction control kicked in) at low rpm which I don't think it had before the ECU swap.

Car goes in the shop AGAIN next friday for another tail light replacement. I'm going to ask for a loaner.

Rob

I also get that hesitation at times

so26 · 10-28-2012, 02:23 AM

Not sure if someone has done this before but here is a histogram of the CEL/SL/Idle issue created using eurospeed's list

jesperswe · 10-28-2012, 07:48 AM

Found out the there will be an official ECU FLASH/REPROGRAM coming to Sweden in November. They will not change ECU, only new software. And also all deliverys have been stopped in Sweden untill ALL cars have gotten the new software.

doggy · 10-28-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jesperswe

Found out the there will be an official ECU FLASH/REPROGRAM coming to Sweden in November. They will not change ECU, only new software. And also all deliverys have been stopped in Sweden untill ALL cars have gotten the new software.

Got the same info from my local Toyota / Subaru dealers...

jesperswe · 10-28-2012, 12:59 PM

Finally the final solution seems to hit Europe now to then

Hopefully i'll never have to bring my car back to the dealer anymore.

86BRZ · 10-28-2012, 01:21 PM

The chart means a new car needs to get past the 3500 miles mark to have less CEL chance...

10-28-2012, 02:23 AM	#1998
so26 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Raven FR-S 6MT Location: Garden state Posts: 181 Thanks: 70 Thanked 54 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not sure if someone has done this before but here is a histogram of the CEL/SL/Idle issue created using eurospeed's list Last edited by so26; 10-28-2012 at 06:34 PM.

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10-27-2012, 10:36 PM	#1990
mhigham Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: MI Posts: 84 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have officially asked about taking ECU off new car, wont hear until Monday. He said they checked dealer inventory nationwide and there are no ECU's in stock. Still hoping to have car back this coming week, but its not looking good. Even after I get it back, then they still have to diagnose/fix HPFP for crickets. I hope thats not another week repair!

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jesperswe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: sweden Posts: 267 Thanks: 0 Thanked 73 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Found out the there will be an official ECU FLASH/REPROGRAM coming to Sweden in November. They will not change ECU, only new software. And also all deliverys have been stopped in Sweden untill ALL cars have gotten the new software.

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jesperswe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: sweden Posts: 267 Thanks: 0 Thanked 73 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Finally the final solution seems to hit Europe now to then Hopefully i'll never have to bring my car back to the dealer anymore.

10-28-2012, 01:21 PM	#2002
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