Thoughts on KSport BBKs?

[Spartan65]

Originally Posted by ultra

BBKs are only really useful on the track but I haven't heard of anyone using, or getting results with, KSport (or D2) brake kits in competitive environments.

If they're serious then they'll need to prove their systems on the track first before I'd consider them.

Like What?

[Spartan65]

Guess I'm just an FD Fan

[Spartan65]

One of Porsche OE BBK option

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Spartan65

One of Porsche OE BBK option

Jesus, quit spamming this bullshit.

Porsche Original Equipment brake upgrade is KSport?


Just go away.

[JoeBoxer]

The only thing KSport i'd buy would be the model

[jamal]

Taking the OE Porsche brakes off for k-sports is way up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen.

[czar07]

I would much rather build my own kit using Wilwood calipers...the mounting bracket would be the most annoying bit as it would need to be custom

[ultra]

I like boobs as much as e next guy...but when I mentioned 'proving' the products I meant lap times, and endorsements from top drivers and such.

[Spartan65]

No Trolls here, I see the product being used on a Fornula Drift car, not my favorite brand of drift car, but none the less the product seems to be succesful in the venue of motor sports. And I meet the two guys that started Ksport at a Barret Jackson auction. They seemed like a couple of straight up gearheads so I give them the benefit of the doubt for their product, I know it's what I've decided to start saving for.

[ultra]

Originally Posted by Spartan65

No Trolls here, I see the product being used on a Fornula Drift car, not my favorite brand of drift car, but none the less the product seems to be succesful in the venue of motor sports. And I meet the two guys that started Ksport at a Barret Jackson auction. They seemed like a couple of straight up gearheads so I give them the benefit of the doubt for their product, I know it's what I've decided to start saving for.

So you're basically advocating the product because you have positive feelings towards the people making them and not based on any specific, demonstrated merits of the actual products themselves.

Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.

They might make a good product or they might not. Can't judge objectively at this poont so I, and others, will hold out for some actual credible data and/or reviews on these things.

I hope that's all right.

[Racecomp Engineering]

nm...

[Justin.b]

I just looked up the address they list in AZ. Took a snapshot of the page, brought it into a paint program. Estimated a car is 7' wide, used that to convert pixels to feet and that building would have to be 21 stories tall to fit 320,000 square feet under its roof (and businesses tend to keep CNC machines on the first floor.

That building looks to be about 15,000 square feet. If they have a full-size storage/office loft then maybe they could double that space inside to 30,000, but roof looks a bit low so I don't even know if that's possible there.

I'm not trying to poop on ksport. I don't know them or their products.

I think the telling thing is that they claim TUV certification. Why would a US company bother with this cert? They wouldn't - but an Asian factory selling worldwide would. The writing on the red bins in the assembly picture also appears to be Asian text. Can't tell for sure - pretty lo-res.

Edit: I was wrong on the building and dimensions (damn, google maps). But I did find a listing for their address which claims 20,000 square feet. http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16005...Dr-Gilbert-AZ/ . The image in the listing also matches the image from ksport's website.





-Justin

[ultra]

I guess I will man up and chuck in what I've witnessed vis a vis D2 brake kits:

I HAVE seen D2kits used here in the local Touring Car series, on a few ITRs and an Evo 6. They *all* experienced brake failures at some point, usually within a few events (each consisting of two 15 minute sprint races per event).

The guys using the D2 kits told me that they did work better than stock brakes until they failed, which was pretty normal. They were using the D2 kits primarily for budgetary reasons and would just replace the entire BBK unit each time one failed at an event because it was relatively cheap to do it that way. According to them the failures were most commonly due to seizing or leaking caliper issues. Also, the D2kits aren't rebuildable.

A pretty ghetto approach IMO but given the format of the series it seemed to make sense to these guys to use cheap BBKs and just bolt a new unit on each time one failed.

Not my definition of how a good BBK should perform but I guess they suited the task at the time.

That kind of performance also seems to correlate with the vids that that guy on EvoM posted. Live fast, die young.

It's pretty common knowledge that KSport products are straight up rebrands of D2 stuff so it's a pretty logical assumption that they'll perform the same way... unless somebody can definitively prove otherwise.

[Justin.b]

From their website: 'Our manufacturing facility is over 320,000'. So there's no way they could be talking about the AZ location.

I think most of the discussion is around where their products are manufactured (although they're actually still stretching the truth by 5000sf on their warehouse size).

-Justin