Production Toyota FT-86 Details and Design Previewed by Toyota Sports Vehicle Boss

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

pulled it out of their ass I believe is clearly the case

+1

Base Price: $24,000* <-- did you check what the asterisk meant on the bottom of the page?

It seems as though the magazines are behind with their data compared to the forums. Its kind of weird to think that it wasn't too long ago when there weren't too forums and car magazines were the main source of data.

[MiguelAE86]

I really do hope its that cheap, if not, cheaper! $22k starting anyone?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

I really do hope its that cheap, if not, cheaper! $22k starting anyone?

[Aki]

Originally Posted by RRnold

It seems as though the magazines are behind with their data compared to the forums. Its kind of weird to think that it wasn't too long ago when there weren't too forums and car magazines were the main source of data.

Mags typically have a 1-2 month lead time from the time it gets written to hitting news stands, so it's just the nature of print vs. online.

[Motordyne]

Originally Posted by Dimman

This certainly looks interesting.

The profile looks a bit like the Nissan Z. I hope it does well on the road course.

[Rainmaker86]

I think from what i have seen it will be a hatch the way the seperation of the rear window and the pillars is a straightline all the way to the trunk and also this is a 2+2 config without the hatch there would no be enough room for people just my 2cents

[nate89]

Originally Posted by Rainmaker86

I think from what i have seen it will be a hatch the way the seperation of the rear window and the pillars is a straightline all the way to the trunk and also this is a 2+2 config without the hatch there would no be enough room for people just my 2cents

/end discussion

[Sea1monkey2]

Originally Posted by Rainmaker86

I think from what i have seen it will be a hatch the way the seperation of the rear window and the pillars is a straightline all the way to the trunk and also this is a 2+2 config without the hatch there would no be enough room for people just my 2cents

but...

from what we've seen on the mules (and guessing what's under the swirlies) there is no evidence of it being a hatch... so...

[MiguelAE86]

Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2

but...

from what we've seen on the mules (and guessing what's under the swirlies) there is no evidence of it being a hatch... so...

I really hope you're wrong

Reason: Lower insurance costs if you're able click "hatchback" than if you click "coupe"!

[Random_Art]

eh? who asks whether it's Hatchback or Coupe? I've never come across that question any time I looked for insurance

[MiguelAE86]

Originally Posted by Random_Art

eh? who asks whether it's Hatchback or Coupe? I've never come across that question any time I looked for insurance

I've always thought that insuring a hatchback is cheaper than insuring a coupe. Say, a VW R32 vs. Mustang V6 Coupe

[1660]

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

I've always thought that insuring a hatchback is cheaper than insuring a coupe. Say, a VW R32 vs. Mustang V6 Coupe

I may be wrong, but I think it's 2 door vs 4 door that affects your insurance more. Engine size and HP are considered too.

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

I've always thought that insuring a hatchback is cheaper than insuring a coupe. Say, a VW R32 vs. Mustang V6 Coupe

ah... I see where you're confused. What you're comparing in your example is "performance econobox" vs "sports car." I'm too lazy to go and try to figure out the insurance rate difference between a VWR32 Golf and a Mustang V6. There's exceptions to every rule, but in general sports cars are going to have higher insurance rates than your average grocery-getter, regardless of performance trim level. And that's what the R32 is... a quicker Golf. There's a lot of factors that go into determining an insurance rate for a particular car. Cost to repair, safety options, reputation of the demographic that buys a particular car- just to name a few.

Though, if I remember, you're what? 16? When you see what the insurance rates are going to be for your age group on the 86/frs when it comes out you may decide that the beat up Camry down the street will do just fine to get you back and forth between college and home.

[Spencer Strayer]

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63

I assume you're referring to the TC in your avatar picture?

yes actually. i owned that.