Production Toyota FT-86 Details and Design Previewed by Toyota Sports Vehicle Boss

[1660]

Originally Posted by Sabastian

I would interpret his response, "You will be pleased in that case, maybe" to mean that the car will fall between 2,600 and 2,800 lb. My guess is that it we'll see it come in around the 2,700-2,750 lb neighborhood. If the engine really makes 200 hp, that should make for an amusing little car.

I would focus on "You will be pleased," not on "maybe." The FR-S could be 2400 ibs. It is in the realm of possibilities.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by bigbcraig

Hey guys...

lookie here...

(tears of joy!)

That is great! <2800 would be cool but <2600 would be perfect!

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by RRnold

That is great! <2800 would be cool but <2600 would be perfect!

Yeah but too much teasing on Toyota's and Moto-P's part. Just wish they would spill the beans on the car (weight, engine, power) and just reveal the exterior and interior at Tokyo. It will be too much for me to have everything released at one time @ Tokyo.

[Laika]

I think Moto said "maybe" about the weight so he could say he technically didn't say anything at all....so let's hope for sub 2600lbs

[Praetendere]

Originally Posted by Lowellrenzo

Genesis coupe looks better than ft ii. Ne1 agree?

No.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yeah but too much teasing on Toyota's and Moto-P's part. Just wish they would spill the beans on the car (weight, engine, power) and just reveal the exterior and interior at Tokyo. It will be too much for me to have everything released at one time @ Tokyo.

Originally Posted by Laika

I think Moto said "maybe" about the weight so he could say he technically didn't say anything at all....so let's hope for sub 2600lbs

Don't bite the hand that feeds ya!! As Matador mentioned in an earlier post, Moto was in direct contact for the design of this car so essentially he knows a lot more than we think.

[StealthESW]

Originally Posted by Aki

5.6 sounds way too fast. If it's 2600ish lbs and 200hp, I'm guessing it'd scoot to 0-60 in 6 seconds flat.

I know a 3344lbs 2009 VW Passat with a 200hp 207lbft 2.0 turbo can hit 60 in about 6.5 secs. For what it is worth.

[bofa]

Originally Posted by StealthESW

I know a 3344lbs 2009 VW Passat with a 200hp 207lbft 2.0 turbo can hit 60 in about 6.5 secs. For what it is worth.

Eh? I think even VW claimed mid 7s for that car.

[ydooby]

Originally Posted by Aki

5.6 sounds way too fast. If it's 2600ish lbs and 200hp, I'm guessing it'd scoot to 0-60 in 6 seconds flat.

FWIW the 2004 S2000 weighed 2835lbs, produced 240hp, and its best 0-60 record was 5.4 secs in Road and Track's test. Assuming 0-60 acceleration times are linearly proportional to weight/hp ratios, a 2600lbs 200hp car should do 0-60 in 5.4 x 240 / 200 x 2600 / 2835 =~ 5.94 secs. So yeah I'm with you that a 6-second-flat 0-60 time sounds about right for a 2600ish lbs & 200hp car.

[StealthESW]

Originally Posted by bofa

Eh? I think even VW claimed mid 7s for that car.

The CC (European Passat) hit 60 in 7.3 secs in '09. I think it is a little heavier than the Passat (USA Model). I know that the times that VW publishes seams to be slower than in testing. I know my '09 was timed as being faster than mid 7s.

[bofa]

Originally Posted by StealthESW

The CC (European Passat) hit 60 in 7.3 secs in '09. I think it is a little heavier than the Passat (USA Model). I know that the times that VW publishes seams to be slower than in testing. I know my '09 was timed as being faster than mid 7s.

I've yet to see any stock times posted that are less than 7 seconds. There's a reason we call it a "pass-it".

[SVTSHC]

Keep in mind 0-60 can not be accurately ascertained using JUST power/weight. One of the major contributing factors to a low 0-60 time are torque (being that you're starting from a dead stop) and how the powerband maps out. Typically on FI cars running smaller turbo's the part of the powerband that matter most (the bit leading up to the top of the parabola before power starts to fall off) is longer than an NA variant with the same power figures.
We won't be able get an accurate 0-60 until the end product is physically tested.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by JDMlove

i still think the turbo is a must!! allot of young people they dont care about the weight of the car!! they only care about speed!!

why should i buy an n/a 4 cylinders engine!! while i can get the 370z with a 330 HP for little higher price!!

i know 370z will be more heavy comparing with the ft-86!! but after market carbon fiber parts can reduce the weight!!


i just wont go for the FT86 if its below 280HP!

i will wait!! if its below 280hp i will go for the 370z!

i drive Infiniti m35 now!! i dont want my daily use car to be faster than my weekend caaaar!!

It is more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

[oneday]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

It is more fun to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow.

See, I knew we were on the same page about something.