Production of MR2 stopped in 2007; new car will be a coupé instead of roadster

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I decided a few days ago that I am annoyed by the term "range anxiety."

But it is a logical description!?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

But it is a logical description!?

No, it isn't. Range limit, or range inadequacy is logical. To label it as a cause for anxiety implies that the operator needs to "get over it."


That's bullshit.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

No, it isn't. Range limit, or range inadequacy is logical. To label it as a cause for anxiety implies that the operator needs to "get over it."


That's bullshit.

But I feel not knowing when your car will cease to operate would cause human anxiety, therefore correct?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

But I feel not knowing when your car will cease to operate would cause human anxiety, therefore correct?

The driver of an electric-vehicle knows no less about when his car will cease functioning than does one with an internal combustion engine. The ubiquity of fuel stations effectively gives the conventional automobile unlimited range. The time that it takes to fully charge an electric vehicle is what requires the driver to consider that vehicle's range limit.

I suspect that the term "range anxiety" was invented to belittle the expression of any concern over the range limitation of the current state-of-the-art electric vehicle.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

The driver of an electric-vehicle knows no less about when his car will cease functioning than does one with an internal combustion engine. The ubiquity of fuel stations effectively gives the conventional automobile unlimited range. The time that it takes to fully charge an electric vehicle is what requires the driver to consider that vehicle's range limit.

I suspect that the term "range anxiety" was invented to belittle the expression of any concern over the range limitation of the current state-of-the-art electric vehicle.

Well, I've been schooled Mr. Spock. Now put your phaser back together and get to work.

And please help me with these blue Tribbles.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Well, I've been schooled Mr. Spock. Now put your phaser back together and get to work.

And please help me with these blue Tribbles.

Please, Captain. I urge you to stop feeding them.

[Jordanwolf]

WHAT IS GOING ON?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!

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[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

...I suspect that the term "range anxiety" was invented to belittle the expression of any concern over the range limitation of the current state-of-the-art electric vehicle.

We got a winner!

As I've said before, I don't care what powers my car as long as the experience is the same. I need to be able to get in any car I own in Georgia, point it towards Oregon, and start driving, picking any road I want without ever thinking about fuel, other than "am I low yet"?

I don't want to have to plan my route around fueling points because when I'm on a long cross-country I tend to wander around ("Hey, that road looks fun, lets go there", "Let's go eat in that town"), or if I do have a concern (like I'm driving across the desert or something) I can throw some extra fuel in the back, something you can't do in an EV (well, unless you carry a generator maybe)

At one point in the past in the US I would not have owned a diesel car for that reason. You just couldn't get diesel everywhere like you can now.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

We got a winner!

As I've said before, I don't care what powers my car as long as the experience is the same. I need to be able to get in any car I own in Georgia, point it towards Oregon, and start driving, picking any road I want without ever thinking about fuel, other than "am I low yet"?

I don't want to have to plan my route around fueling points because when I'm on a long cross-country I tend to wander around ("Hey, that road looks fun, lets go there", "Let's go eat in that town"), or if I do have a concern (like I'm driving across the desert or something) I can throw some extra fuel in the back, something you can't do in an EV (well, unless you carry a generator maybe)

At one point in the US I would not have owned a diesel car for that reason. You just couldn't get diesel everywhere like you can now.

If you live and travel somewhere that is a colder climate, youd also lose like up to 20% of your range. Your say 300 mile travel itinerary has to account for the loss.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I decided a few days ago that I am annoyed by the term "range anxiety." It feels suspiciously like one of those clever marketing terms designed to flip the script.

It's not my fault that I like being able to fill up and go. Standardize the batteries and set up hot-swap stations. Then we can talk.

Not all batteries are the same. That's like swapping your perfectly good engine with some random engine that you don't know how it was taken care of or if it was damaged.

[Rampage]

La Coupe

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Rampage

La Coupe

Clearly the new MR2!

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Not all batteries are the same. That's like swapping your perfectly good engine with some random engine that you don't know how it was taken care of or if it was damaged.

Not even close. It's like swapping an empty gas tank for a full one.

The charge and life-cycle states of the battery are well known. Place the onus of maintenance upon the vendor. Standardize and regulate it just as the production and distribution of conventional fuels are now. Simple.

The engineered solutions have already existed for years. Manufacturers just have to get off of their asses and spend some damn money. We'll buy it.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Not even close. It's like swapping an empty gas tank for a full one.

The charge and life-cycle states of the battery are well known. Place the onus of maintenance upon the vendor. Standardize and regulate it just as the production and distribution of conventional fuels are now. Simple.

The engineered solutions have already existed for years. Manufacturers just have to get off of their asses and spend some damn money. We'll buy it.

Except the 'gas tank' that comes back may have holes in it, or be filled with 2 year old gas. The system doesn't work when unregulated individuals can pump gas back into the communal pool. Back before I saw someone try to design a system where this might work, I was with you on replaceable batteries, but it simply doesn't work when you look at reality. People will be people.