Difference between Opti-Coat and Opti-Guard?

[Frank @ BrightShine]

Originally Posted by davey90

Hey fellas, been Googling around can't find a good answer. I keep reading posts/threads on opti-coat and opti-guard. To me they sound like the same thing.



anyways, Just wondering if it actually is the same thing with a different name or are they completely 2 different products that does the same job or better?

Cheers! :happy0180:

Hi Davey90,

More than happy to call you to explain all the differences. If you can PM me your number I'll give you a quick buzz.

Frank

[Frank @ BrightShine]

Originally Posted by JDMSushi

Yeah mine is Opti Guarded by Superior and has a warranty card which you register online with your vehicle and personal details.

We all do that.

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[Frank @ BrightShine]

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[Frank @ BrightShine]

For everyone else I apologise that you have put up with this nonsense.

[fuddbutter]

Originally Posted by Frank @ BrightShine

For everyone else I apologise that you have put up with this nonsense.

I think if you have a problem with Mitch or anything he has said, you should call him and talk to him, arguing on the internet is pointless and makes you look bad. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong.

[Frank @ BrightShine]

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[Hawk77FT]

I was wondering the same thing and I did a lot of internet search untill i found this article:

Enter Optimum Opti-Coat!

It was a dark and stormy night in 2004, when, in a laboratory hidden deep underground, a mad scientist obsessed with polymer technology started developing and testing Opti-Coat…Ok, so maybe it wasn’t really an underground laboratory, and that mad scientist was actually David Ghodoussi from Optimum Polymer Technologies, but that development and testing continued on for another 3+ years before Optimum was ready to unleash this amazing new product in 2008. However, this was no ordinary product release and unless you had been following along on the Optimum forum during the late stages of development, you probably would never have even heard of Opti-Coat. There was no marketing for this product, it was not being offered to the general public, and there was no information about it on Optimum’s web page. In fact, it was only available to approved professional detailers who signed a waiver acknowledging they understood the application process and risks.
As pro detailers began getting their hands on Opti-Coat and testing it for themselves, word quickly spread across the detailing network like wildfire! Although I had seen a few posts shortly after its release, I wasn’t ready to jump on the bandwagon. It wasn’t until I started to see rave reviews about the product by other very reputable pro detailers, those who I’ve come to know very well and who’s opinion I held in high regard, that my interest was piqued. In June of 2010, I ordered up my first syringe of Opti-Coat and applied it to my car. After 15 months of having this fantastic product on my car I can honestly say it has far surpassed my expectations!
Where can I order it?

After all that build-up, I’m sorry to say that because of it’s very nature, Opti-Coat is still only available to professional detailers. Opti-Coat is a permanent coating and it is not applied like a traditional wax or sealant. Once it’s cured the only way to remove Opti-Coat is by polishing, sanding, or with the use of paint removers. Because of its impervious property, IPA, Prep-Sol, Detergents, degreasers, or other chemical cleaners will not affect the coating. While the application process is very similar to Opti-Seal, when applying Opti-Coat you must ensure that it levels out before it cures (and it cures fast), because once it sets, it’s not coming off. Obviously this could pose a significant liability in the hands of the general public, which is why it’s only available to pro detailers.
Enter Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0

As more and more pro detailers posted their experiences with Opti-Coat, the general public car/detailing enthusiast became increasingly frustrated that they could not obtain the product. Well, the great folks over at Optimum Polymer Technologies were listening the entire time and they spent the next 3 years secretly tweaking the formula. The changes would make application easier and more user friendly for the consumer market. In Spring of 2011 Optimum officially released the consumer version of the coating! (drumroll, please……) It is called Opti-Coat 2.0 and, as promised, it is available to the general public!
Opti-Coat 2.0 has all the same exceptional qualities of the pro version (now named Opti-Guard), but it cures more slowly, thereby giving the user more time to level out any areas where the product might have been applied too heavily.
So what is Opti-Coat 2.0 and what’s so special about it?

Opti-Coat is a one component moisture cure clear coat much like a one-component moisture cure isocyanates paint. Once it is applied, just like other clear coats, there is no need to add boosters or other maintenance products to replenish it.




Opti-Coat vs. Urethane clears

• Much better scratch and Mar resistance
• Much better release properties (readily sheds dirt and oil)
• Much better UV resistance (no yellowing over time)
• Much better gloss retention
• Does not oxidize (will continue to bead water and release dirt for years).

David Ghodoussi, CEO
Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc

So it seems that Opti-Coat is in an actual fact Opti Guard and Opti Coat 0.2 is the SAME product but for the general public. Opti-Coat 2.0 has all the same exceptional qualities of the pro version (now named Opti-Guard), but it cures more slowly, thereby giving the user more time to level out any areas where the product might have been applied too heavily.

[davey90]

Awesome find @Hawk77FT! Thanks heaps! clears everything up!

Cheers

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by OPT

Great post! Although they missed one important fact regarding the thickness of the coating the 2.0 produces. As the professional version contains a higher concentration of the resin, it produces a thicker coating once cured.

These details most likely came out after the information above was posted.

Correct! However it has been proven that OptiCoat 2.0 can be layered for up to 30 days (time needed to cure) depending on the temperature. I am not saying that people should not use a professional. OptiCoat 2.0 it self is very easy to apply, it's the prep work is the hard part. I mean, if someone does not have the skills, or the tools to get it done then use a pro. OptiGuard (or OptiCoat) used by pros cures very, very quick therefore when they opti coat your car and make a mistake they have the necessary tools and skills to fix the problem. OptiCoat 2.0 cures over a longer period of time, therefore it gives time to unprofessional to fix the uneven spots.

BUT, the trick is in the prep work. Remember that every contaminant, or scratch will remain under the clear coat if not removed properly. So if you have two left hands, and no proper tools leave it to a professional. However, if you know what you're doing then OptiCoat 0.2 is your daddy.

Please see the link below. The guy answered heaps of questions in the comments section. Enjoy!

http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...opti-coat-2-0/

Mercer

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by davey90

Awesome find @Hawk77FT! Thanks heaps! clears everything up!

Cheers

No worries mate! I have a Lexus IS200 that I am planning to do (and sell) before my car arrives. I know that I might spend 4 to 6 hours on prepping it but I reckon it will look great. I will post pictures as well.

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by OPT

Anyone who doesn't have the tools and the skill to correctly machine polish the vehicle shouldn't even consider the 2.0 version.

Not a religious guy by any means, but I will say Amen to that!

[fuddbutter]

Will 2.0 cure faster under heat (as in spraybooth/oven)

[Detailed]

Originally Posted by fuddbutter

Will 2.0 cure faster under heat (as in spraybooth/oven)

Yes the speed of curing/reaction doubles for every 10c. This is based on 20c taking 3 hours for intial cure.