COVID Developments and News

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atropine

watching baseball game, will find more when not busy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3094965/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3068582/

Last one is old,

I just skimmed through most of the first one, but it seems pretty clear it is targeted chronic disease-causing viruses such as HIV as opposed to viruses that cause acute disease like COVID-19. It's pretty interesting to see one reason we don't have vaccines for those types of viruses yet, but I am fairly certain the effects detailed in the report would have been apparent during the trials if it applied here. Still does not support your claims regarding the COVID-19 vaccines.

It's late and I have important work stuff in the morning, so I'm not going to bother with the second. I recommend writing out a summary of these reports before sharing. It usually helps clear up some of the confusion as to whether or not it applies to the current situation.

[Atropine]

I didn't say COVID vaccine causes the short term drop in the immune system. I just said vaccines can.
But that's the thing man; us healthcare workers or ex military or current military have seen or have been given vaccines that have been shown to do these things.
Look up Persian Gulf War Syndrome if bored.

All I was trying to point out is this:
A lot of healthcare workers got COVID and recovered.
We then kept going to work and have been repeatedly exposed to it. Many of us are worried that getting a vaccine of any kind could tank our immune system.
Also we could potentially already be infected but asymptomatic atm.
That is why before you get any vaccine you are asked "have you been sick?
Before you get the COVID vaccine,you are asked "have you been exposed to COVID recently?"
The reason is: "getting the vaccine while you already have COVID can potentially make it worse."
What I am tryng to point out is the reason for vaccine hesitancy.

Thanks for reading those earlier.
It's hard to keep track with what everyone says.
Anyway good luck tomorrow with work.
I too am super busy. Finally have some days off and I am way behind property work (9 acres) because we have had a huge shortage of staff.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I didn't say COVID vaccine causes the short term drop in the immune system. I just said vaccines can.
But that's the thing man; us healthcare workers or ex military or current military have seen or have been given vaccines that have been shown to do these things.
Look up Persian Gulf War Syndrome if bored.

All I was trying to point out is this:
A lot of healthcare workers got COVID and recovered.
We then kept going to work and have been repeatedly exposed to it. Many of us are worried that getting a vaccine of any kind could tank our immune system.
Also we could potentially already be infected but asymptomatic atm.
That is why before you get any vaccine you are asked "have you been sick?
Before you get the COVID vaccine,you are asked "have you been exposed to COVID recently?"
The reason is: "getting the vaccine while you already have COVID can potentially make it worse."
What I am tryng to point out is the reason for vaccine hesitancy.

Thanks for reading those earlier.
It's hard to keep track with what everyone says.
Anyway good luck tomorrow with work.
I too am super busy. Finally have some days off and I am way behind property work (9 acres) because we have had a huge shortage of staff.

So the problem with that is, they would need to get an antibody test to confirm it. Otherwise you could be sick from a multitude of stuff.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I used Peer Reviewed articles as sources
I guess I could have used a comma

I have sourced this, mulitple times in this thread

This is why I can't be convicted of a crime, I have no peers.

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by weederr33

So the problem with that is, they would need to get an antibody test to confirm it. Otherwise you could be sick from a multitude of stuff.

Right, but even a positive PCR or antibody test doesn't get you out of the mandate (at least in my hospital system).

I guess its like if you catch someone lying you dont trust them.

Well, we have caught the "mandaters" changing definitions and skipping past accepted science (natural immunity) multiple times.

This doesn't mean the mandates are evil or anything, but it does sow discord and distrust.

[MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Wait, you are quoting a part of the article that is saying that a nursing home had a COVID-19 outbreak last December and a lot of people died due to COVID-19 within the next month. Is that supposed to be some sort of revelation?

Turns out, when there is an outbreak of a deadly disease, many people catch the disease, and many of those who are infected die. Was that not taught to everyone as children?

Administering a vaccine against a disease to a patient who is already sick with that disease isn't going to help them. If you run out in the rain, then put on a raincoat, you are already wet.

the biggest red flag of course, is that it's a "article" from mercola, one of the oldest crank natural medicine sites on the internet. the dude who runs the site is not a medical doctor but absolutely likes calling himself Dr.

[Lantanafrs2]

Gain of function

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...180354699.html

[weederr33]

Looks like fake news to me

[Lantanafrs2]

It would

[weederr33]

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Looks like fake news to me

What's fake about it?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

What's fake about it?

Nothing. I'm just fucking about because my brain is fried right now.

[Lantanafrs2]

[Atropine]

Out of curiousity...

Is the "Fauci funded gain of function testing in the Wuhan Lab" still considered a conspiracy theory?

Or is that now accepted?