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Old 01-15-2019, 04:17 PM   #15
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If the hit was hard enough to bend the left front shock (assuming that's the one that was replaced?), and break the wheel, I'd bet that the LCA and/or subframe is bent too.


The original shop is clearly terrible and didn't actually do any of the work they said they did. I would be all over the insurance company and adjuster making sure they saw the terrible repairs. Not only should the car be going somewhere else, the insurance company should be getting their money back from the first shop.


Forget a local tuner shop, the car needs a proper repair shop that can ensure the frame is straight.

That's what I told them. They should recoup at least half of the payment. I meant $4000 for a coil over (assuming that's all that bumped it up by 4k after replacing the coil over). They said they were gonna check if it was ruined, and after alignment said it was ruined and bought a new one. From there the quote went from 5k to 9k.

I will call Geico once again and let them know the shop did such a bad job that I refuse to go back. Their work was a polished turd...I don't need another polish job, thanks.

Thanks everyone. I will start with Geico again.

Also, allegedly they replaced the LCA, and I don't see damage on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the wrong LCA, or I suspected the sway bar was bent and not replaced, but not 100% certain there.
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Just an update. I still assume the sway bar is bent. I found that the rubbing I'm hearing is the tire rubbing on the back of the wheel lining. So it's not rubbing on metal on the inside. The passenger side doesn't rub anywhere still.

I'm going just get the white line front and rear sway bar combo and see if it helps since I want that upgrade anyhow.

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I would quit trying to fix this thing on your own and force the insurance company to make it right. All you are doing is killing the value of your car by doing your own bandaids. Let a pro fix it.
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Sway bars just loosely connect the left and right suspension to help corner flatter. They do nothing to the suspension geometry. If something is rubbing (other than the sway bar itself) it isn’t the sway bars fault.

I replace subframes all the time. They’re made to take a hit and dissipate energy. If anything in the suspension is bent you can almost guarantee the subframe is too.
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I would quit trying to fix this thing on your own and force the insurance company to make it right. All you are doing is killing the value of your car by doing your own bandaids. Let a pro fix it.
But I just did that and it came back with a glued bumper and other issues. Do I just keep taking it to pros until the right one gets it right, : (? I checked reviews for the place and they had good reviews. Maybe they just don't do sporty cars or something. We don't have many here that do (if any at all). I'll call insurance, but the sway bars aren't a band aid. I am doing that regardless. This just rushed it.
I'll call insurance again. See what they say.

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If I were you I would be finding out what my rights are and going at the insurance company to have it corrected. Just some very brief searching shows they can not force you to use any specific shop and the insurance company must stand behind the repairs of the recommended shop if the repairs are not done properly. It is also very easy to file a complaint with the state. I have threatened that in the past and it tends to move things along in the right direction.
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you need to be bringing all of your complaints to your insurance company. all insurance repairs are typically guaranteed for life, if you're not happy, you need to make it known. you needed to make it known the first week you picked it up.


when my eclipse was t-boned, because of the age of the car at the time of the incident, the insurance company insisted on using aftermarket parts. i brought it to a trusted family friends auto body shop, and he was adamant that the fitment was going to be poor.

i brought up those concerns with the adjuster, he reassured me that the fitment was going to be just as good, and that the work would be guaranteed for life. so i went with it, they installed the aftermarket parts, and as expected, the shop did a great job, but nothing lined up the same because of the inferior parts.

i then showed the adjuster the major issues with the lack of fitment, and they agreed to re-do the entire job with oem parts.


the lesson here is firstly, you need to find a shop that YOU trust. the second lesson is that insurance companies will do whatever to just 'get it done'. if it's not up to your standard, don't back down, don't accept the work, and be a pain in the ass until it's done correctly.

it's fair to bring it back to the same shop a few times to allow them to correct their mistakes. but after repeated attempts, it should also be fair of you to discuss with your insurance company about allowing you to take the car somewhere else to be properly repaired after the original shop fails to meet satisfaction.

finally, there are no 'sports car repair shops'. body work is body work, whether it's a 20 year old f-150, a brand new cherokee, or a 4 year old subaru. there are entire binders for repair procedures for all of these vehicles, the difference in repairs is who's paying for them, the standards of the shop/people doing the work, and the level of acceptability of the vehicle owner.
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Just an update. I still assume the sway bar is bent. I found that the rubbing I'm hearing is the tire rubbing on the back of the wheel lining. So it's not rubbing on metal on the inside. The passenger side doesn't rub anywhere still.

I'm going just get the white line front and rear sway bar combo and see if it helps since I want that upgrade anyhow.

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If the wheel is rubbing on the back of the fender liner, you have a serious geometry issue. Sway bars aren't going to do anything at all to fix this, you're just wasting time and money.

I'll bet a lot that the subframe (or even the frame itself) is bent, that's the only way the wheel would be shifted backwards enough to rub like you're saying it is.
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If the wheel is rubbing on the back of the fender liner, you have a serious geometry issue. Sway bars aren't going to do anything at all to fix this, you're just wasting time and money.

I'll bet a lot that the subframe (or even the frame itself) is bent, that's the only way the wheel would be shifted backwards enough to rub like you're saying it is.
Ok but how is it a waste when I was doing the upgrade anyways? Thanks for the answers/suggestions/help, but you don't need to sigh, dude. I'll get it looked at but I'm getting the sway bars as they've been on the list of upgrades to get.

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My bet would be on a bent control arm. They bend easily in the event of an impact. A bent control arm could also potentially allow the wheel to hit where OP is saying if bent just right.

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Ok but how is it a waste when I was doing the upgrade anyways? Thanks for the answers/suggestions/help, but you don't need to sigh, dude. I'll get it looked at but I'm getting the sway bars as they've been on the list of upgrades to get.

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Yo are being a bit stubborn here about what is clearly an issue with your chassis (at least according to your own descriptions). Thats why the sigh is there, people here are trying to point you into the right direction but you just want to believe some sway bar change is magically going to fix a bent subframe.
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Ok but how is it a waste when I was doing the upgrade anyways? Thanks for the answers/suggestions/help, but you don't need to sigh, dude. I'll get it looked at but I'm getting the sway bars as they've been on the list of upgrades to get.

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The sigh is for thinking new sway bars is going to fix anything. IMO, hold off on them until you actually have it fixed. If your wheel is that out of position it could end up bending your new sway bars if you install the front one before you have the rest fixed.
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The sigh is for thinking new sway bars is going to fix anything. IMO, hold off on them until you actually have it fixed. If your wheel is that out of position it could end up bending your new sway bars if you install the front one before you have the rest fixed.
I meant I'm just getting them. I'll talk to insurance and check with the only modder shop in town before I install. I was hoping they'd fix it, but I'll check with the shop and insurance first.

It was inspected and "fixed" by pros so idk, man.

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I meant I'm just getting them. I'll talk to insurance and check with the only modder shop in town before I install. I was hoping they'd fix it, but I'll check with the shop and insurance first.

It was inspected and "fixed" by pros so idk, man.

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