Manual or Automatic? Why?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by bcj

We need a manual choke mod.
Some things were just better back in the day.

Kinky.

Originally Posted by bkharmony

P'shaw! I think we should go back to manual spark advance control, like classic Nortons had.

I kinda want to try driving something like that where just getting up the street is challenging. Not everyday, but at least once.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

I thought that was a bonus?

I specifically said a nice girl. Oh, you were a teenager in California, so maybe you didn't know any nice girls -


humfrz

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Obviously, when you were a teenager, you never took a nice girl on a date in a car with a bench seat and a floorboard shift and wanted her to snuggle up close to you while driving and found out that she wouldn't because every time you shifted, she thought you were trying to put your hands up her dress - and slapped the hell out of you -


humfrz

Yep, sounds like an excuse you would make. I wouldn't buy it either.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I specifically said a nice girl. Oh, you were a teenager in California, so maybe you didn't know any nice girls -


humfrz

Define "nice"?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Define "nice"?

NOT a valley girl -


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Yep, sounds like an excuse you would make. I wouldn't buy it either.

Yep, first gear and third gear on my old Chev pickup was anywhere between the steering column and the passenger door handle (literally).


humfrz

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

NOT a valley girl -


humfrz

Wait a minute. My wife was born and raised in the San Fernando Valley. "The Valley". She is a nice girl?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I kinda want to try driving something like that where just getting up the street is challenging. Not everyday, but at least once.

You couldn't handle it -


humfrz

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Wait a minute. My wife was born and raised in the San Fernando Valley. "The Valley". She is a nice girl?

OK, so there were (are) a few exceptions.



humfrz

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

An AT can't do that? Is there a law or just not physically able? What if people are located in the 80% of the geographic areas with no mountains?

My steering wheel physically locks if I try to go on a mountain road. I think it's for my safety since I have an AT I can't handle something like that.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

If you can't teach someone to drive a stick in 10 minutes, you're doing something wrong, or maybe on purpose so you can make fun of them.

Originally Posted by why?

That's if they want to learn. The younger generations stalls once and decides that is too much negativity for the week.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I taught all three of my sons to drive stick as a condition of them getting their license. I suppose they were motivated learners...

I found that unless someone younger than 20 is a car person or a budding gearhead they won't really engage themselves into learning manual

It's more of a why should they learn thing when almost all the cars there driving here in the US will be an auto. I tried to teach my best friends sister stick in an e36 m3 and she could figure it out with someone encouraging her but wasn't comfortable enough to be driving it alone.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

You couldn't handle it -

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I found that unless someone younger than 20 is a car person or a budding gearhead they won't really engage themselves into learning manual

Well it's like any other learned skill, there has to be a reason or desire to learn. It is no longer a "necessary" skill, so it is left to the rank of the enthusiast.

At this point your "standard" vehicle no longer even has an option for a MT, so most folks have no reason to bother.

My sons (29, 25, and 21) have ridden in cars with manual transmissions, and learned to drive one, but they have never been in a car with manual windows or door locks to my knowledge. I'm not sure they would know what to do if faced with one, but I'm sure they could figure it out.

[pinoy_dorifto]

Got a 2017 A/T. Mostly daily and some track events. Yes, the A/T shifting and downshifts are top notch specially for a torque converter setup! Only reason it's slower is the gear ratios. But! If you slapped on a 4.88fd like I did and some people here, it becomes a real beast even on stock tune. IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!! I work at a Toyota dealership, and I get to work on (release bearing failure wink* wink*, grinding gears wink* wink*) and drive a bunch of manual versions as well and still choose my A/T w/4.88fd.