Suggestions on suspension upgrade over BC

[evomike]

Originally Posted by wparsons

Sorry, but you're wrong. Toe was all over the place too, along with the steer ahead.

Nope

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by evomike

Nope

So you know what MY car did better than me? You're a special kind of special, aren't you?

[evomike]

Originally Posted by wparsons

So you know what MY car did better than me? You're a special kind of special, aren't you?

A car can not drive proper down the street with those specs, it just isn’t possible. Your acceptable isn’t correct I’m sorry but those are just facts.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by evomike

A car can not drive proper down the street with those specs, it just isn’t possible. Your acceptable isn’t correct I’m sorry but those are just facts.

How can you possibly say that without knowing the steer ahead? Oh right, you can't.

[86MLR]

When I dropped my car 20mm my total toe was less than about 1mm different from previous alignment, both front and rear, camber at the rear changed from -1.25°L /-1.75°R to -2.2° both sides, this is still with the OEM LCA.

There was no noticable difference for the 1 day I drove around before getting my alignment, car drove straight, braked straight, and handled fine for the 80 odd km that it did prior to alignment.

As for the added preload on the linear springs, even with minmal stroke length left in the dampener, it still should have some, which, wouldn't effect handling to the extent the OP was mentioning.

And as the springs are linear (my old BC's were linear) the added preload woud not effect the spring rate.

Unless of course the bump stops were fully compressed, that may/would cause issues on even a slightly rough pavement.

But, as the OP has not posted pictures or alignment specs it's all conjecture.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by evomike

So you’re still saying him not aligning it and having t set up isn’t the problem, keep ignoring the fact that if OP bought $5k coilovers his car would still drive like a bag of ****s. You can say the product is inferior all you want but that IS NOT the root of the problem here the root of the problem is OP not aligning his car and having the pre load set.

He would have a quality foundation to work with. Right now he's got a pile of shit with a pile of problems on top. After he fixes his problems, he's still left with the pile of shit.
The product is the root problem.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by evomike

Nah dog it rides like shit because he fucked up preload and didn’t align the car, but I get it reading is hard.

No.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

It would be nice if the OP had the BC's setup and aligned, then post his view on them.

Seems all but two of us already know what that review would sound like.

[SuperTom]

im with Evomike you can't properly judge the product until the preload and alignment is correct. And going by some of the post possible inexperienced install could lead to more issues.


I have Meister R coilovers which are <$1000 and drive great so you don't need $2000 coilovers to have a good ride.


Its possible he got a defective coilover from BC but I would suspect not following the install directions first before bashing a product

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by SuperTom

im with Evomike you can't properly judge the product until the preload and alignment is correct. And going by some of the post possible inexperienced install could lead to more issues.


I have Meister R coilovers which are <$1000 and drive great so you don't need $2000 coilovers to have a good ride.


Its possible he got a defective coilover from BC but I would suspect not following the install directions first before bashing a product

True. However the product has already been judged, and with empirical data to prove it, it is in fact, junk. This is honestly just common knowledge at this point.

[evomike]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

He would have a quality foundation to work with. Right now he's got a pile of shit with a pile of problems on top. After he fixes his problems, he's still left with the pile of shit.
The product is the root problem.

BC coilovers are good enough for 99% of the people that is a fact, the car will drive fine not be bouncy at all and they will not fall apart in a few months. You can keep saying they are the problem here but they 100% are not the root of the problem, OP not getting an alignment and ruining the pre-load is the root of this issue. You can bash the product all you like but all you are doing is telling OP that its the product and not his lack of understanding that changing suspension components and adjusting ride height requires an alignment, it is information and advice like this that leads to people thinking this way. If OP was building a time attack or track car your advice would be well placed and i would agree that the BC's would not suffice but in this thread the issue is not the quality of the strut but OP's lack of understanding.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by evomike

BC coilovers are good enough for 99% of the people that is a fact

No, that's your OPINION.

Also, good enough means jack shit when for the same price you can get a set of coilovers that were actually engineered for the car by reputable companies (ST, Tein).

[SuperTom]

Tokyo seems to have a personal vendetta against BC like they bullied him in school. You guys are really just going to keep talking in circles. I still say its unfair to judge a part if it has been installed improperly.


Where is the OP in all this?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by SuperTom

Where is the OP in all this?

Switched back to stock 50+ posts ago

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=30