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PetrolioBenzina · 04-07-2018, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

The Japanese sauce they got is a decently legit place...

Link to legit sauce?

tay.green · 04-09-2018, 05:40 AM

As cool as it would be for them to create a bigger engine for a 2nd gen 86, I honestly doubt it. Especially with the Supra right around the corner of making its debut again. It just doesn’t seem realistic for them to have a car that would compete with the Supra sadly. Again this is just my opinion.

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humfrz · 04-09-2018, 01:49 PM

Oh, I think it's about time to increase the power of the 86.

I think a 2.4 l displacement engine or by the addition of a modest SC should quiet most folks down.

humfrz

Tcoat · 04-09-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, I think it's about time to increase the power of the 86.

I think a 2.4 l displacement engine or by the addition of a modest SC should quiet most folks down.

humfrz

No it won't. It will just up the number that people will say it "needs".
"What do you mean 250HP? My grandmothers Dodge Caravan makes nearly that. Needs to be at least 500 to be any good."

PetrolioBenzina · 04-09-2018, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, I think it's about time to increase the power of the 86.
I think a 2.4 l displacement engine or by the addition of a modest SC should quiet most folks down.

humfrz

OFT and E85 should be enough as well. You can't get more out of 500 bucks anywhere else.

A W6 would be cool, though.

humfrz · 04-09-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina

OFT and E85 should be enough as well. You can't get more out of 500 bucks anywhere else.

A W6 would be cool, though.

W6 .....??

Help me out here, I don't get out much ......

humfrz

Brayden_23 · 04-09-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

W6 .....??

Help me out here, I don't get out much ......

humfrz

I assume he means engine configuration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W_engine

humfrz · 04-09-2018, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brayden_23

I assume he means engine configuration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W_engine

Well, I'll be darned ...... that's a new one on me ......

humfrz learnt something today ......

ermax · 04-09-2018, 04:44 PM

A W5 would probably be balanced better though. Hahaha. I kid I kid.

HachiRokuX · 04-09-2018, 05:01 PM

I know none of this is confirmed, but what if they offered two trim levels? New BRZ/86 skin w/updated safety features and old 2.0L motor for thousands cheaper, and the new 2.4L motor.

Just a thought, I doubt it would happen since the cars barely sell as is--they most likely just want to keep manufacturing simple and use the same factory they use for the current BRZ/86 if they go through with a second gen.

Plus the Supra already might come with 2.0L turbo and TT I6 from BMW (in some regions, at least). That would be a lot of the same cars (that don't sell in big numbers) in one showroom.

funwheeldrive · 04-09-2018, 05:04 PM

The 2019 Miata will make 181hp, so Toyota will either need to shed weight or add power to stay competitive.

Tcoat · 04-09-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The 2019 Miata will make 181hp, so Toyota will either need to shed weight or add power to stay competitive.

That is presuming they give a rat's ass about competing with the Miata. Something tells me they don't.

funwheeldrive · 04-09-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

That is presuming they give a rat's ass about competing with the Miata. Something tells me they don't.

I know Tada has a lot of interest in the ND and would be surprised if they didn't frequently compare the two cars over at Toyota.

ermax · 04-09-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The 2019 Miata will make 181hp, so Toyota will either need to shed weight or add power to stay competitive.

The FRS would only need 215HP to have the same power to weight ratio as the Miata with 181HP. Well, assuming the curb weight of the Miata doesn't change. I hope they don't set their sights on the Miata. I'd rather see 240HP than 215HP.

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tay.green Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: Toyota 86 2018 Halo Location: Orem, UT Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As cool as it would be for them to create a bigger engine for a 2nd gen 86, I honestly doubt it. Especially with the Supra right around the corner of making its debut again. It just doesn’t seem realistic for them to have a car that would compete with the Supra sadly. Again this is just my opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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HachiRokuX Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Florida Posts: 232 Thanks: 1,712 Thanked 117 Times in 73 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know none of this is confirmed, but what if they offered two trim levels? New BRZ/86 skin w/updated safety features and old 2.0L motor for thousands cheaper, and the new 2.4L motor. Just a thought, I doubt it would happen since the cars barely sell as is--they most likely just want to keep manufacturing simple and use the same factory they use for the current BRZ/86 if they go through with a second gen. Plus the Supra already might come with 2.0L turbo and TT I6 from BMW (in some regions, at least). That would be a lot of the same cars (that don't sell in big numbers) in one showroom.

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