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Old 03-23-2018, 03:58 PM   #15
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:55 PM   #16
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+1 on the volume of catless + stock catback. Besides a little growl undertone at idle, you would barely notice the difference.

Under load (maybe 3.5k and up) you start to hear it growl. But I was shocked at how quiet it was. I expected it to be much louder based on videos. Given that most crappy mics used to record these clips compress the audio heavily, they all make it sound quite loud. It isn't.

Can't go wrong with Tomei or JDL. I recently installed the ti-coated JDL and was very impressed with the build quality.
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:18 PM   #17
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sorry to hijack the thread, any pros and cons for UEL vs EL headers?
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:41 PM   #18
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sorry to hijack the thread, any pros and cons for UEL vs EL headers?
UEL = sound
EL - ultimate peak power. (very minimal IMO unless have a highly built motor.)
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Old 03-23-2018, 07:43 PM   #19
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Don't bother with a header. Get a cold air intake, bigger throttle body and you're good to go.
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Old 03-23-2018, 08:16 PM   #20
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That clip of the yellow BRZ sounds nice, its basically the sound I am after, ,,,, except that popping.
I dont care for loud popping or backfiring. That worries me about alot of these setups.
Your tuner can easily take care of that preference. When you're driving you won't hear any of that drama anyways.

The fact is that almost every catless UEL will sound the same when paired up to a stock exhaust, the only difference will be the quality of the header itself.

IMO, a catted UEL header is a waste of money. They won't rumble nearly as much due to less difference in runner lengths, and "high flow" cats are a scam and they're still restrictive and don't allow nearly as much power/torque gains after tuning. They'll also melt/collapse just as quickly if you track with them frequently.

Just go with a JDL catless UEL. You won't regret it.
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UEL = sound
EL - ultimate peak power. (very minimal IMO unless have a highly built motor.)
Not minimal if you go with a good dyno tune, e85/93 octane gas, catless, and a high quality long tube header from ACE. Expensive, but far from minimal. Very very far

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Don't bother with a header. Get a cold air intake, bigger throttle body and you're good to go.
Also muffler bearings for better exhaust scavenging or something
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Gains from header and tune are not minimal. Some cars maybe but not these.
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Don't bother with a header. Get a cold air intake, bigger throttle body and you're good to go.
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+1 for JDL UEL catless. That, paired with aftermarket axleback and you are on game.
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+1 for JDL UEL catless. That, paired with aftermarket axleback and you are on game.
what kind of tune is best with JDL UEL? Delicious stage 2 or OFT stage 2?
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what kind of tune is best with JDL UEL? Delicious stage 2 or OFT stage 2?
Is up to you really. But since you are on socal, i would suggest to considere Delicius with their flex tune if budget allow it. If you are on budget OFT will cover up your needs as long you stay NA
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what about OpenFlash UEL with OFT stage 2 tune? hows that compare to JDL UEL with Delicious stage 2 tune? not trying to hijack the thread OP :P
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what about OpenFlash UEL with OFT stage 2 tune? hows that compare to JDL UEL with Delicious stage 2 tune? not trying to hijack the thread OP :P
For the price of open flash header i would save up few bucks and buy JDL with lifetime warranty. Like i said, is a matter of preference. I went oft because is cheap and i can flash the car with stock tune for warranty reclaim
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