AP Racing brake systems in development

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

I'm interested in your kits and clearly you ship overseas.

How much track use will the endurance kit take?; I do about 10 trackdays a year and will add an sc kit shortly.

It's designed for the track.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

It's designed for the track.

That wasn't his question and I honestly don't think Jeff can answer it. It depends on the track, temp, tires, driving style, etc. Hopefully Jeff can give a rough estimate tho

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

That wasn't his question and I honestly don't think Jeff can answer it. It depends on the track, temp, tires, driving style, etc. Hopefully Jeff can give a rough estimate tho

The way these are designed, it's my opinion that you'd have to horrendously beat on them to do any permanent harm to them on the track. Hence my answer. Heavy track use will always take some toll on the parts on the car, but since these are designed for it, I doubt they will be the component to cause problems for 99% of those that buy them.

I know @CSG David has the Sprint kit on their car and with stock power levels they can't even get them hot enough to get race pads to bed in.

Nathan

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

The way these are designed, it's my opinion that you'd have to horrendously beat on them to do any permanent harm to them on the track. Hence my answer. Heavy track use will always take some toll on the parts on the car, but since these are designed for it, I doubt they will be the component to cause problems for 99% of those that buy them.

I know @CSG David has the Sprint kit on their car and with stock power levels they can't even get them hot enough to get race pads to bed in.

Nathan

He bedded them, he just didn't know the C300s made noise regardless. Without bedding they are even louder, but they ALWAYS make noise.

I agree though, mine don't work up a sweat and my brakes often hate me.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

He bedded them, he just didn't know the C300s made noise regardless. Without bedding they are even louder, but they ALWAYS make noise.

I agree though, mine don't work up a sweat and my brakes often hate me.

Good to know.

Nathan

[ICantAffordAnLFA]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

It's designed for the track.

Sorry, my mistake, I meant the sprint item.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

Sorry, my mistake, I meant the sprint item.

Everything I said still applies. This is a track system. No dust boots, hard anodized, anti-knockback springs, stainless pistons. All done to improve the performance and reliability on track.

The Sprint just uses a lighter weight rotor. For what it's worth, The turbo'd VCMC (I think that's it) car that was on Tuned used the Sprint system.

Nathan

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by SubieNate

The way these are designed, it's my opinion that you'd have to horrendously beat on them to do any permanent harm to them on the track. Hence my answer. Heavy track use will always take some toll on the parts on the car, but since these are designed for it, I doubt they will be the component to cause problems for 99% of those that buy them.

I know @CSG David has the Sprint kit on their car and with stock power levels they can't even get them hot enough to get race pads to bed in.

Nathan

When ICantAfford said "How much will it take" I was thinking about the rotors, not really the full system. Yes I agree with you under normal track conditions with the proper maintenance then there shouldn't be any problems, especially with his requirements. I don't think anyone that has either the Sprint or Endurance has had any problems other then normal wear and tear stuff.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

I'm interested in your kits and clearly you ship overseas.

How much track use will the endurance kit take?; I do about 10 trackdays a year and will add an sc kit shortly.

We have around 8 full track days worth of time on our sprint kit, and have gone through around 5mm TOTAL in brake pad (we've been trying different compounds). While we're not the fastest drivers out there, we're no slouches either.

The rotors are showing minimal (almost none) grooving. The usual microfractures are there, but they haven't propagated at all, and aren't along the vane inside the rotor. I'd expect to be able to get a solid 15 track days worth of driving out of these, if not more.

We've been testing on various sizes of Hankook RS3s, as well as R-comps.

You'll get plenty of life out of these, and you will NOT be regretting your purchase.

I'm sure the other junkies on this board would agree.

[mines13]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We have around 8 full track days worth of time on our sprint kit, and have gone through around 5mm TOTAL in brake pad (we've been trying different compounds). While we're not the fastest drivers out there, we're no slouches either.

The rotors are showing minimal (almost none) grooving. The usual microfractures are there, but they haven't propagated at all, and aren't along the vane inside the rotor. I'd expect to be able to get a solid 15 track days worth of driving out of these, if not more.

We've been testing on various sizes of Hankook RS3s, as well as R-comps.

You'll get plenty of life out of these, and you will NOT be regretting your purchase.

I'm sure the other junkies on this board would agree.

I find this funny, you are absurdly quick. Totally agree, these brakes are pretty peerless on a price to performance scale.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We have around 8 full track days worth of time on our sprint kit, and have gone through around 5mm TOTAL in brake pad (we've been trying different compounds). While we're not the fastest drivers out there, we're no slouches either.

The rotors are showing minimal (almost none) grooving. The usual microfractures are there, but they haven't propagated at all, and aren't along the vane inside the rotor. I'd expect to be able to get a solid 15 track days worth of driving out of these, if not more.

We've been testing on various sizes of Hankook RS3s, as well as R-comps.

You'll get plenty of life out of these, and you will NOT be regretting your purchase.

I'm sure the other junkies on this board would agree.

Are the grooves being created by the J-hooks? I noticed mine have a groove behind the tip of the J-hook. Not sure if that is because I didn't bed in properly.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

He bedded them, he just didn't know the C300s made noise regardless. Without bedding they are even louder, but they ALWAYS make noise.

I agree though, mine don't work up a sweat and my brakes often hate me.

Oh he most certainly did

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Are the grooves being created by the J-hooks? I noticed mine have a groove behind the tip of the J-hook. Not sure if that is because I didn't bed in properly.

That's normal. At least I've seen it on real race cars with J hooks and on my AP discs too

He's probably talking about grooving from wear, which mine also have a little of (normal again). They aren't anywhere near end of life though.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Oh he most certainly did

The noise? LOL One of your made comments (thought it was David) that you guys couldn't bed them in because they still made noise