AP Racing brake systems in development

[Matt Andrews]

Brakes are on. Essex did a great job with the instructions. Only a pair of unexpected complications during install. I'll have them on the track tomorrow during the FRS86 meet at Autoclub Speedway in Fontana tomorrow. If you are around come by and say hi.

Here is a photo of the finished product. A longer review, install outline, and more photos are on my blog if you want to see.

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by CSG David

It LOOKS like the AME Tracer TM-02. Thanks for the correction though. What was I thinking?!?!

I wonder which ones are lighter?

Originally Posted by Matt Andrews

Brakes are on. Essex did a great job with the instructions. Only a pair of unexpected complications during install. I'll have them on the track tomorrow during the FRS86 meet at Autoclub Speedway in Fontana tomorrow. If you are around come by and say hi.

Here is a photo of the finished product. A longer review, install outline, and more photos are on my blog if you want to see.

Looks great, cant wait to hear you impressions on these, im getting mine around the 15th. BTW what wheels are those?

[ichitaka05]

Looks good... only if they made both front & rear brake upgrade. IF they ever do, I'm totally going this setup!

[BRAWL]

I will likely get a set of these in about 12 months after getting my car and then wheels to suit them

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Looks good... only if they made both front & rear brake upgrade. IF they ever do, I'm totally going this setup!

They will be, for show.. but why do you want more in the rear of the car?

IMO there's enough brake back there already, there is definately no need for larger heatsinks back there, it doesn't use all of what's already available.

I was working on a buddies Boss 302 yesterday and his car is running full Ford Racing 302R race car brakes, the rears used on the race car (and therefore his) are factory Boss 302 rear brakes, the fronts are massive full floating discs with 70 or 76 vane (forget) rotors and 4 pot Brembo calipers. Point being, only upgrade the rears if it's required IMO.

Well unless it's a show car, then upgrade everything for show points

[RYU]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

They will be, for show.. but why do you want more in the rear of the car?

IMO there's enough brake back there already, there is definately no need for larger heatsinks back there, it doesn't use all of what's already available.

I was working on a buddies Boss 302 yesterday and his car is running full Ford Racing 302R race car brakes, the rears used on the race car (and therefore his) are factory Boss 302 rear brakes, the fronts are massive full floating discs with 70 or 76 vane (forget) rotors and 4 pot Brembo calipers. Point being, only upgrade the rears if it's required IMO.

Well unless it's a show car, then upgrade everything for show points

Speaking from my limited personal experience having fixed calipers on all 4 corners improves pedal feel and modulation. Better heat dissipation is also a given. Performance improvement? Maybe only marginal in this car.

Would like to hear thoughts from Essex on this.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by RYU

Speaking from my limited personal experience having fixed calipers on all 4 corners improves pedal feel and modulation. Better heat dissipation is also a given. Performance improvement? Maybe only marginal in this car.

Would like to hear thoughts from Essex on this.

Certainly fixed calipers can improve feel and modulation, I would never argue that (and have stated it before). I would argue that it's going to be really noticable from the REAR of this car though.

Those are two of the reasons I've ordered the Sprint setup from Essex. The additional cooling from the rotors, lose of unsprung weight, cheaper pad replacements and longer pad life are others.

I really can't see myself ever bothering with the rear though, I don't believe we will get any great benefits from there and there is no need for additional cooling yet, the damn things don't even get warm enough on track to bake the paint off pads, it only takes a lap or two to bake the paint off the fronts

I also doubt modulation benefits in general in modern cars, EBD I think will remove a lot of that benefit seen in older cars that I've experienced it in.

I'll find out soon enough hopefully - for the fronts anyways!

Jeff and I had conversations about this months before the car was released but I welcome his thoughts as well!

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

They will be, for show.. but why do you want more in the rear of the car?

IMO there's enough brake back there already, there is definately no need for larger heatsinks back there, it doesn't use all of what's already available.

I was working on a buddies Boss 302 yesterday and his car is running full Ford Racing 302R race car brakes, the rears used on the race car (and therefore his) are factory Boss 302 rear brakes, the fronts are massive full floating discs with 70 or 76 vane (forget) rotors and 4 pot Brembo calipers. Point being, only upgrade the rears if it's required IMO.

Well unless it's a show car, then upgrade everything for show points

No, I don't need 4 pot in the rear. Just need 2 pot, more will be waste for this car.

Why I need/want 4/2 on this car when it's already good as is... I'm OCD like that. I cannot stand having different front & rear calipers set-up. Yes, I know that's totally "show car" concept... BUT I just feel I want 4/2 AP calipers.

[Matt Andrews]

skip the rear caliper upgrade and just make a 2 piece rear rotor to knock off the weight. This set up is great. More when I can type more and download all the video. I believe the car set FTD at the autocross and ran 2:00 laps on the Roval this weekend during the speedventures / FRS86 meet in Fontana. Great modulation, great heat dissipation.

Good to meet the many folks from this board that I got to talk to.

Best,
Matt

[Matt Andrews]

Originally Posted by pcasso87

Looks great, cant wait to hear you impressions on these, im getting mine around the 15th. BTW what wheels are those?

Mach V's "awesome" wheel. 17x9 at under 18 lbs.

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by Matt Andrews

Mach V's "awesome" wheel. 17x9 at under 18 lbs.

Matt, any rubbing at the track with 17x9? Im considering selling my 17x8's and moving to a 17x9 to run 255's.

[Matt Andrews]

no rubbing on track. well, almost none. The rears touch just enough to turn the rolled fender black in a couple spots, but you can't see any evidence on the tire itself. It does rub at full lock in the parking lot. But I will run this setup again, and I have no problem putting my wife in the car. So no special knowledge needed to drive around issues.

[Racecomp Engineering]

We cant wait to get these on our BRZ this week !

JEFFFFFFFF !

[ImAwesome]

for me upgrading the rears just helps keep the factory distribution, if you take into account total swept area, proportioning valves, piston sizes, etc.