Bought a car more dangerous than my FRS

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

This will be something I need to drill into my brain constantly. I've heard that a bigger front rollbar helps with the 91s. That is probably going to be my first upgrade. That and better intercooler piping , t-bolt clamps, and little stuff that that.

I'm already very impressed by the car stock.

Awesome - one of my favorite things about this car is hearing the turbo spool up. It's literally right behind your head

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

The success are due to aftermarket oil pumps major oil pan baffles. Stock for stock 3sgte are just better overal.

He says he uses completely stock engines. The stock baffling is apparently very good and the engines can tolerate 300F oil without blowing up. The famous Formula D 2AR build also has completely stock oil pan and pump.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by ermax

@funwheeldrive, so you have been FF, FR now MR. It will be interesting to see what your preference is once you get used to MR. My first car was FF. After going FR I could never go back to FF. AWD doesn't interest me at all. I'd love to go RR but can't afford that yet. Hahaha

I've owned close to 20 cars, but here are some honorable mentions from my past.

1990 Talon Tsi FWD
1992 Laser AWD turbo
1999 Integra GSR
2001 Prelude SH
1997 Del Sol Si
1995 Thunderbird V8
1994 Miata
1998 Neon ACR
2005 SRT4

It's kind of early to tell, but I'm really liking MR so far. I've driven an Elise for several days and my mom owns a first generation Boxster. The Boxster always felt weird to me, and the Elise can't really be driven hard on public roads.

This car has the push of my old turbo DSMs, but really reminds me of my FRS when it comes to seating position and visibility. The sound of the turbo spooling right behind my head is addicting. It's a really unique combination when it comes to driving characteristics. The manual steering is refreshing and the car brakes surprisingly well. The thing I love most is how planted the car feels during acceleration in low speed turns.

[MRCA1ST]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

1992 Laser AWD turbo

Best model year for the DSMs IMO, I had a 92 Talon TSi AWD - really cool car that I often regret selling.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by MRCA1ST

Best model year for the DSMs IMO, I had a 92 Talon TSi AWD - really cool car that I often regret selling.

Agreed. I wish I could have kept several of my old cars due to climbing prices of clean 90s Japanese cars.

My dream DSM is a 1998 Talon Tsi

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

My dream DSM is a 1998 Talon Tsi

I'm 5'11" and my head brushes the roof in one of those.

Funny you said the 986 Boxster feels weird as I've found the handling to be quite odd and not as agile as I thought. Could have been the really big steering wheel or the age of the car.

Does the MR2 sit lower than the twin? How's the visibility?

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Agreed. I wish I could have kept several of my old cars due to climbing prices of clean 90s Japanese cars.

My dream DSM is a 1998 Talon Tsi

I had a 1997. It was a hard top awd in red. Not quite so dreamy, lol. Best looking DSM though by far.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

I had a 1997. It was a hard top awd in red. Not quite so dreamy, lol. Best looking DSM though by far.

I had a 91 AWD TSI in red and black. I liked the looks of the first gen way more. Those stock wheels screamed 80s and the pop up lights had about a 40% chance of working one day to the next though.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I had a 91 AWD TSI in red and black. I liked the looks of the first gen way more. Those stock wheels screamed 80s and the pop up lights had about a 40% chance of working one day to the next though.

Idk, can't beat the fangs on the front bumper or the powered purple lettering.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Those stock wheels screamed 80s

So 80s it actually takes clip-on wheel weights.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Idk, can't beat the fangs on the front bumper or the powered purple lettering.

Purple lettering? Purple? Where was the purple? How very 90s F & F of it.


Edit: I see it now the pic wasn't there before!


Next best thing to stock under glow.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Purple lettering? Purple? Where was the purple? How very 90s F & F of it.

On the rear bumper and lower rear quarter panel.

One on the side said "16v dohc turbo" and the ones on the back said "talon tsi awd" with a sweet eagle emblem.

My image embedding was lacking, lol

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by krayzie

I'm 5'11" and my head brushes the roof in one of those.

Funny you said the 986 Boxster feels weird as I've found the handling to be quite odd and not as agile as I thought. Could have been the really big steering wheel or the age of the car.

Does the MR2 sit lower than the twin? How's the visibility?

One thing that I can never get used to with the German cars I have driven is the gas pedal action. My friend used to have a e36 m3 and the gas pedal drove me crazy. Similar with the Boxster, except I didn't like the clutch or brake pedal either. The entire car seems heavy, but at the same time composed and quiet. I can see why my mom likes the car, but the whole experience felt very numb for me.

I would say that the Mr2 sits slightly lower than the FRS, but the difference is very small. What I love about the Mr2 is that you can barely see the hoodline when you're in the driver's seat. In that sense it makes my FRS feel bulky.

IIRC the SW22 hardtop weighs roughly 2750lbs, so almost identical to the FRS, but it feels like a bigger difference since the actual car is quite a bit smaller.

[krayzie]

The combination of the heavy feeling with the lack of body roll made the Boxster a somewhat weird driving experience.

The MR2 probably sits fairly close to a Honda of the same era. I think the twin has a similar hoodline to the final Prelude but probably doesn't sit as low, with our dash not angling down towards the occupants doesn't help either.

I have fairly big feet so heel and toe German cars with bottom hinged gas pedals doesn't bother me much. I'm just not a fan of the slight offset seating position.