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Zentec · 01-21-2018, 03:48 AM

I mean with 7k miles on it what can I tell him to have the dealer look for to fix? Or is he going to have to live with it getting louder till something breaks? Should I go in with him and sudjest they replace the trans and shifter. I know they will be like um no lol. Ultra is it going to be something between the flywheel to the transmission. What I can’t see or feel anything from the engine that is different. It seems to me what ever is messed up it’s rotating at high speed and tourqe.

Zentec · 01-21-2018, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Yes, looong shots but maybe:

* the flywheel is out of balance

* the pressure plate is out of balance

* the clutch disk is out of balance

Question, when his engine is revved up (car standing still) does the engine in his car feel "rougher" than the engine in your car ..??

Has he ever "dropped the clutch hard" .. ??

Who else has a theory ......

humfrz

Nope to my knowledge he has never launched car or even popped the clutch. For being in mid 20s he drives really well and almost baby’s it.

No engine sounds and feels the same as dose the clutch. The only differences are the geary noises and the trans feed back and noise. Other than that rides and drives the same. He even broke the car in properly. He is due for an oil change soon so he will be taking it in.
I know we can get this.

Ultramaroon · 01-21-2018, 03:56 AM

I'm thinking along the same lines as @humfrz but I'd have to have hands on to get any further.

I have maybe 50% confidence that it's something coming apart inside the bell housing; like you say, "between the flywheel to the transmission."

Zentec · 01-21-2018, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I'm thinking along the same lines as @humfrz but I'd have to have hands on to get any further.

I have maybe 50% confidence that it's something coming apart inside the bell housing; like you say, "between the flywheel to the transmission."

Can that add to the geary noise and feed back or do you think it’s something different?

Is there a way to isolate those items other than telling the service director to check the bell housing for fly wheel, plates ect?

Zentec · 01-21-2018, 04:17 AM

As I’m reading the reply’s. When I was driving at low speed and the geary sound and feel. The car felt almost lurchy my foot was not on the clutch and I was keeping steady gas position. When I put my foot back on the clutch and suddenly put the pedal to the floor it sounded louder and felt almost clunky and learchy. Now this was only during low speeds of 2-8mph. When driving normally dosent feel an different in clutch throw or engagement feels normal.

humfrz · 01-21-2018, 05:12 AM

Well, Zentec, I don't believe there is anything else we can do to help out your buddy, here, from out keyboards.

Other than checking the transmission mounts and oil level in the transmission, I don't think there would be anything else I could do under my shade tree without pulling the transmission and examining the flywheel, clutch and pressure plate........ which is what I'd suggest your buddy ask to have done at a dealership.

Please keep us posted.

humfrz

Teseo · 01-21-2018, 06:56 AM

Totalled. Dibs on differential

Zentec · 01-21-2018, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, Zentec, I don't believe there is anything else we can do to help out your buddy, here, from out keyboards.

Other than checking the transmission mounts and oil level in the transmission, I don't think there would be anything else I could do under my shade tree without pulling the transmission and examining the flywheel, clutch and pressure plate........ which is what I'd suggest your buddy ask to have done at a dealership.

Please keep us posted.

humfrz

Will do thanks everyone!!

humfrz · 01-21-2018, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Totalled. Dibs on differential

....... his drivetrain ain't locked up yet!

humfrz

Ultramaroon · 01-21-2018, 04:24 PM

@Zentec, you got that transmission out?

Zentec · 01-21-2018, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

@Zentec, you got that transmission out?

Nope not sure when he will take it in but should be soon.

humfrz · 01-21-2018, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

@Zentec, you got that transmission out?

@Tcoat and mrs Tcoat; @Ultramaroon and mrs Ultramaroon ....... I suggest you'll fly down to Las Vegas and the men pull and fix the problem and let the wives do their casino thing. I'm sure that mrs Tcoat's winnings will pay for the trip ......

humfrz

Tcoat · 01-21-2018, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

@Tcoat and mrs Tcoat; @Ultramaroon and mrs Ultramaroon ....... I suggest you'll fly down to Las Vegas and the men pull and fix the problem and let the wives do their casino thing. I'm sure that mrs Tcoat's winnings will pay for the trip ......

humfrz

Not this time.

finch1750 · 01-21-2018, 05:56 PM

Find a new dealer and/or have them escalate it to one of the regional guys. If they cant find a cause but know something is wrong (should be obvious to drive a new 86 on the lot to compare) no being able to figure it out isnt an excuse to not make it right

Downside is sounds like the car could be in the shop for a bit

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Zentec Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Las Vegas Nv Posts: 214 Thanks: 194 Thanked 78 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I mean with 7k miles on it what can I tell him to have the dealer look for to fix? Or is he going to have to live with it getting louder till something breaks? Should I go in with him and sudjest they replace the trans and shifter. I know they will be like um no lol. Ultra is it going to be something between the flywheel to the transmission. What I can’t see or feel anything from the engine that is different. It seems to me what ever is messed up it’s rotating at high speed and tourqe.

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Zentec Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 Location: Las Vegas Nv Posts: 214 Thanks: 194 Thanked 78 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As I’m reading the reply’s. When I was driving at low speed and the geary sound and feel. The car felt almost lurchy my foot was not on the clutch and I was keeping steady gas position. When I put my foot back on the clutch and suddenly put the pedal to the floor it sounded louder and felt almost clunky and learchy. Now this was only during low speeds of 2-8mph. When driving normally dosent feel an different in clutch throw or engagement feels normal.

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humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 29,806 Thanks: 28,663 Thanked 31,689 Times in 16,377 Posts Mentioned: 707 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Well, Zentec, I don't believe there is anything else we can do to help out your buddy, here, from out keyboards. Other than checking the transmission mounts and oil level in the transmission, I don't think there would be anything else I could do under my shade tree without pulling the transmission and examining the flywheel, clutch and pressure plate........ which is what I'd suggest your buddy ask to have done at a dealership. Please keep us posted. humfrz

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