Urgent help needed please!

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Swoldier86

So I could use my 4 jack stands and my car jack to drop the tranny?


How long did it take you?

When you say jack I assume you mean a floor jack that can be rolled. What I did is took a scrap 1x6 which I had in the garage and cut it about 7in long and placed that on top of my jack to go between the jack and the tranny. There is a nice flat area in center where the weight is balanced.

There is a thread on here with good details. I posted my observations at the end of the thread.

Sort description from memory. Disconnect battery. Disconnect all harness interconnects on the top back on the engine. Unbolt the slave. Then get under the car and drop the lower engine covers and disconnect the mid pipe. Drop the prop shaft (oh yeah, drain tranny fluid first). Disconnect the shift linkage. This part is a bitch because there is a rubber boot covering the linkage which isn’t easy to remove. I thought you had to unbolt something under the center console to release this boot but that isn’t the case. You just have to stretch the crap out of it to pull it over the linkage. I ended up ripping mine putting it back on. If I did it again I would cut it off and throw it in the can. After the linkage is disconnected you are ready to unbolt the tranny and lower it. Before unbolting the tranny you have to jack the front of the engine to prevent it from tipping forward. You could probably use the jack that came with the car for this. I had a second floor jack to do this. I jacked mine on the water pump. I didn’t like this but you aren’t really jacking the engine, you are just preventing it from tipping. If you don’t keep it from tipping then it will bind on the lower tranny studs making it impossible to slide off the engine.

All the bolts are super easy to access on this car. No need for swivel adapters or anything like that is needed. You don’t need hands/arms of a 5 year old to reach crap. It’s the easiest tranny I’ve ever dropped. I didn’t support the front of the engine on the way off and that made the job really hard for me. Putting it back on I realized where I was going wrong. Once I supported the engine the tranny slid all the way in place on one single light push of my jack.

DIY here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=127

Skip all the steps were they take the center console apart. You can disconnect the linkage from bellow and it’s super easy (assuming you cut/scrap the rubber boot).

Here is the official service manual section for dropping the tranny:
https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal...59583189099764

Here is a video of a guy dropping the tranny in 20 mins. He spends about 10 mins trying to remove a cross threaded bolt from the exhaust:

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Swoldier86

So I could use my 4 jack stands and my car jack to drop the tranny?


How long did it take you?

From those questions and other questions you have asked, I recommend that you have a shop replace the TOB (new version), pressure plate, clutch disk (with OEM parts) and the clutch fork (with an aftermarket stronger one).

Since it's wintertime in TN and this is your primary (only) source of transportation, I don't think it's a good time for you to start learning how to change out a clutch.

Yes, I've done it ..... on a frozen dirt barn floor, at night, with a dim trouble light, in the winter, below zero temps, (NO, the floor didn't slant uphill both ways).

It's a bit more involved than I feel you are anticipating.

I wish you well.


humfrz

[Swoldier86]

Originally Posted by ermax

When you say jack I assume you mean a floor jack that can be rolled. What I did is took a scrap 1x6 which I had in the garage and cut it about 7in long and placed that on top of my jack to go between the jack and the tranny. There is a nice flat area in center where the weight is balanced.

There is a thread on here with good details. I posted my observations at the end of the thread.

Sort description from memory. Disconnect battery. Disconnect all harness interconnects on the top back on the engine. Unbolt the slave. Then get under the car and drop the lower engine covers and disconnect the mid pipe. Drop the prop shaft (oh yeah, drain tranny fluid first). Disconnect the shift linkage. This part is a bitch because there is a rubber boot covering the linkage which isn’t easy to remove. I thought you had to unbolt something under the center console to release this boot but that isn’t the case. You just have to stretch the crap out of it to pull it over the linkage. I ended up ripping mine putting it back on. If I did it again I would cut it off and throw it in the can. After the linkage is disconnected you are ready to unbolt the tranny and lower it. Before unbolting the tranny you have to jack the front of the engine to prevent it from tipping forward. You could probably use the jack that came with the car for this. I had a second floor jack to do this. I jacked mine on the water pump. I didn’t like this but you aren’t really jacking the engine, you are just preventing it from tipping. If you don’t keep it from tipping then it will bind on the lower tranny studs making it impossible to slide off the engine.

All the bolts are super easy to access on this car. No need for swivel adapters or anything like that is needed. You don’t need hands/arms of a 5 year old to reach crap. It’s the easiest tranny I’ve ever dropped. I didn’t support the front of the engine on the way off and that made the job really hard for me. Putting it back on I realized where I was going wrong. Once I supported the engine the tranny slid all the way in place on one single light push of my jack.

DIY here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=127

Skip all the steps were they take the center console apart. You can disconnect the linkage from bellow and it’s super easy (assuming you cut/scrap the rubber boot).

Here is the official service manual section for dropping the tranny:
https://demos.starbase7.net/t3Portal...59583189099764

I cant even begin to thank you enough for the replies and help.


I am wanting to do this on my own to save money, I just hope I can get this done in like 1 day. I am going to have to get a rental car out of pocket my car insurance wont cover this I called and asked them. So I want to get it fixed quick, I don't mind trying to do it myself but my buddy who used to work for Subaru and knows a ton about cars more than anyone I have ever met keeps scaring me telling me its a pain to drop the tranny that he would rather pull the motor to change the clutch. So I am kind of scared to change it myself.


I want to make sure I have all of the parts, tools, grease etc. I don't want to drop the tranny and then be missing something small that I would need to finish it. This is my first year ever doing things to a car I never learned growing up but I am in love with he process of learning plus I like to save money. Also I can make sure it is done properly and I can clean everything whereas a mechanic might not be so kind to my car lol.

[Swoldier86]

Originally Posted by humfrz

From those questions and other questions you have asked, I recommend that you have a shop replace the TOB (new version), pressure plate, clutch disk (with OEM parts) and the clutch fork (with an aftermarket stronger one).

Since it's wintertime in TN and this is your primary (only) source of transportation, I don't think it's a good time for you to start learning how to change out a clutch.

Yes, I've done it ..... on a frozen dirt barn floor, at night, with a dim trouble light, in the winter, below zero temps, (NO, the floor didn't slant uphill both ways).

It's a bit more involved than I feel you are anticipating.

I wish you well.


humfrz

Thanks for the help hum I appreciate it. I am open to doing it and feel confident with a good tutorial that I can get it done.


It probably is going to be more work than I expect based off of what my buddy is telling me and I watched a video on youtube just now of a guy changing his clutch and its a 10 part video series. He does it in his garage though on jackstands but also has a low profile transmission jack.

[pushrod]

If the burning was bad enough, the flywheel will have hot spots on it and will need to be replaced.

This is a drive-by comment. I haven't read the last dozen or so replies so this may be irrelevant.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Swoldier86

I cant even begin to thank you enough for the replies and help.


I am wanting to do this on my own to save money, I just hope I can get this done in like 1 day. I am going to have to get a rental car out of pocket my car insurance wont cover this I called and asked them. So I want to get it fixed quick, I don't mind trying to do it myself but my buddy who used to work for Subaru and knows a ton about cars more than anyone I have ever met keeps scaring me telling me its a pain to drop the tranny that he would rather pull the motor to change the clutch. So I am kind of scared to change it myself.


I want to make sure I have all of the parts, tools, grease etc. I don't want to drop the tranny and then be missing something small that I would need to finish it. This is my first year ever doing things to a car I never learned growing up but I am in love with he process of learning plus I like to save money. Also I can make sure it is done properly and I can clean everything whereas a mechanic might not be so kind to my car lol.

He may have done some work on Subaru’s but maybe not the FRS. Pulling the engine/tranny as one unit would be WAY more involved than simply dropping the tranny.

All you need tool wise is basic stuff like torque wrench. Some extensions. Jack stands. Floor jack. As far as parts just the clutch disk, pressure plate, TOB, pilot bearing. You may need to have the flywheel surfaced. I have a local shop I use that will do it for about $60. You also need grease and 3 quarts of tranny fluid.

Have you ever done a job like this?

Edit: I just noticed you said you just started doing stuff on your car. If your friend is willing to back you up then go for it. I did grow up learning to do this sort of stuff but none of it is rocket science (not this job anyways) as long as you have the tools.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Swoldier86

I cant even begin to thank you enough for the replies and help.


I am wanting to do this on my own to save money, I just hope I can get this done in like 1 day. I am going to have to get a rental car out of pocket my car insurance wont cover this I called and asked them. So I want to get it fixed quick, I don't mind trying to do it myself but my buddy who used to work for Subaru and knows a ton about cars more than anyone I have ever met keeps scaring me telling me its a pain to drop the tranny that he would rather pull the motor to change the clutch. So I am kind of scared to change it myself.


I want to make sure I have all of the parts, tools, grease etc. I don't want to drop the tranny and then be missing something small that I would need to finish it. This is my first year ever doing things to a car I never learned growing up but I am in love with he process of learning plus I like to save money. Also I can make sure it is done properly and I can clean everything whereas a mechanic might not be so kind to my car lol.

Reminds me of the time, back-in-the-day, I dropped a SLR (film) camera in the muddy water in a flooded rice field. Now, I figured that all I had to do was take it all apart, clean it up, dry it out and put it back together, I would DIY.

Well, all went well till I tried to put it back together .......

So, I put all the pieces in a box and took it into a camera shop and asked them how much it would cost to put it back together. The man replied that if I would have left it alone and brought it in for repair that would have been one cost ......... but, now that I had taken it apart and messed it up ...... the cost would be more than the camera was worth ........

THE END


Well, young wrencher, it's your call .......



humfrz

[Swoldier86]

Originally Posted by ermax

He may have done some work on Subaru’s but maybe not the FRS. Pulling the engine/tranny as one unit would be WAY more involved than simply dropping the tranny.

All you need tool wise is basic stuff like torque wrench. Some extensions. Jack stands. Floor jack. As far as parts just the clutch disk, pressure plate, TOB, pilot bearing. You may need to have the flywheel surfaced. I have a local shop I use that will do it for about $60. You also need grease and 3 quarts of tranny fluid.

Have you ever done a job like this?

Edit: I just noticed you said you just started doing stuff on your car. If your friend is willing to back you up then go for it. I did grow up learning to do this sort of stuff but none of it is rocket science (not this job anyways) as long as you have the tools.

So far the only things I have done are brake pads, oil, put on a catback exhaust.


I was planning to put my coilovers on tomorrow night but now I may wait until I get the clutch and do them both at the same time. I don't want to do the coilovers first because the car will be even lower and therefore harder to jack up.


I am up for a learning experience I just don't want to mess something up and then do more harm than good. The tutorial seems easy and there is also a video on YouTube like 10 hours worth of videos showing the process. I think it may be the same guy who posted the written tutorial actually.


I am going to try to talk my buddy into helping me, or even just supervising me while I do the work to make sure I don't die or put something on wrong. If not then I may just have to suck it up and shell out a ton of money that I don't have. Good thing for credit cards lol.

[Swoldier86]

[cjd]

Do it when the stores are open so you can run get stuff you didn't realize you need. Be sure you have a ride to said shops.

And plan to be without the car longer than expected because no one has that part local after all.

Read through the service manual steps before you do anything. And remember that you need to get the car UP high enough you can get the transmision OUT from under. If jack stands, that's pretty high, especially if the transmission is also on a jack.

Remember, if you discover you can't get it done partway through, you may be in a much worse spot than if you'd not tried.

It's also quite DIY-able. I just don't recommend learning without a backup plan (i.e. don't do this on your ride to work) given the number of odd little things you might discover along the way.

[ermax]

Good advice. I was able to do it on jack stands not even fully extended (fully extended makes me a little nervous) and with the tranny on a floor jack (lowprofile) with a 1x6 block of wood to protect the tranny. It cleared with no problem.

[Swoldier86]

Originally Posted by cjd

Do it when the stores are open so you can run get stuff you didn't realize you need. Be sure you have a ride to said shops.

And plan to be without the car longer than expected because no one has that part local after all.

Read through the service manual steps before you do anything. And remember that you need to get the car UP high enough you can get the transmision OUT from under. If jack stands, that's pretty high, especially if the transmission is also on a jack.

Remember, if you discover you can't get it done partway through, you may be in a much worse spot than if you'd not tried.

It's also quite DIY-able. I just don't recommend learning without a backup plan (i.e. don't do this on your ride to work) given the number of odd little things you might discover along the way.

Thank you so much. I will have to have a rental car for this so a ride shouldn't be an issue.


The jack stands I bought go up very very high so I think I will have room to drop the tranny out.


I am going to try to decide asap on which route I take. Im just so hesitant because it didn't really smell this morning after driving for over an hour and it has worked fine all day so long as I pull up on the clutch pedal before shifting into gear for the first time.


After that I don't have to pull up at all when driving on the streets at stop lights/signs. I keep praying that its nothing major and just something small that we are overlooking.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Swoldier86

Thank you so much. I will have to have a rental car for this so a ride shouldn't be an issue.


The jack stands I bought go up very very high so I think I will have room to drop the tranny out.


I am going to try to decide asap on which route I take. Im just so hesitant because it didn't really smell this morning after driving for over an hour and it has worked fine all day so long as I pull up on the clutch pedal before shifting into gear for the first time.


After that I don't have to pull up at all when driving on the streets at stop lights/signs. I keep praying that its nothing major and just something small that we are overlooking.

If, no when, it goes completely you will be stranded and have to pay for a tow. Do not be lulled into a false sense of security because it is working OK. It is on it's way out. Take my word for it.

It is pretty straightforward a task so watch some tutorials and give it a shot. Perfect next step in DIY repairs.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If, no when, it goes completely you will be stranded and have to pay for a tow. Do not be lulled into a false sense of security because it is working OK. It is on it's way out. Take my word for it.

It is pretty straightforward a task so watch some tutorials and give it a shot. Perfect next step in DIY repairs.