2019 Subaru Ascent - New 2.4 Turbo Flat-Four The Twins Will Never Get

[trippinbillies40]

Guys, there IS a 2.4l coming. We said it at the NYIAS with the reveal of the Viziv 7 concept. I won't tell ya hp/tq specs. But yes, there is a 2.4l in the Ascent.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Guys, there IS a 2.4l coming. We said it at the NYIAS with the reveal of the Viziv 7 concept. I won't tell ya hp/tq specs. But yes, there is a 2.4l in the Ascent.

I am always pessimistic (the internet has jaded me) but as you are a reliable source I will have to accept that.

Like I said before that is what I get for trying to apply logic to the auto industry. I should have known better after all these years.

[Lynxis]

Originally Posted by ScoobsMcGee

Can't find more than a tweet of the image and a link to a website that says nothing about the engine. (https://www.subaru.com/2017-laas)

On the plus side, I found this on Subaru's twitter account while looking.

Is there a ramp nearby? Are they gonna jump it?

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by Lynxis

Is there a ramp nearby? Are they gonna jump it?

[JazzleSAURUS]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Guys, there IS a 2.4l coming. We said it at the NYIAS with the reveal of the Viziv 7 concept. I won't tell ya hp/tq specs. But yes, there is a 2.4l in the Ascent.

Are you able to tell us if it's slated to replace the FB25, or if they will coexist?

[nikitopo]

I would expect that all the bigger NA engines will be replaced by smaller displacement turbo variants. Subaru is known to be a conservative brand. What others were doing the last 5-10 years, Subaru will start doing now. Just think how many years took them to design a DI turbo engine. In some ways they are trying to improve, but they are still not there. When I am reading that Subaru will be a game changer, I am just laughing. You don't buy a Subaru to be on the edge of technology...

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by JazzleSAURUS

Are you able to tell us if it's slated to replace the FB25, or if they will coexist?

As of now, the only knowledge I have is it's for the Ascent. I could totally see variants of it replacing the H6 in the Legacy and Outback, and maybe a variation making it into the next STI, but who knows. That's only speculation on my part.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

You don't buy a Subaru to be on the edge of technology...

We're working on that. Slowly but surely. The Ascent will have some cool tech, as well as the next gen Forester.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

We're working on that. Slowly but surely. The Ascent will have some cool tech, as well as the next gen Forester.

Forester xt with a manual please. Old tech is good too.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Forester xt with a manual please. Old tech is good too.

Wouldn't that be nice? Unfortunately the take rate on XT's is incredibly low as it is, let alone if it were offered in a manual. I was genuinely surprised they even offered the new Crosstrek in a manual given that less than 1% of first gen Crosstreks were manuals.

Then you get the crazies on FB who comment on Subaru posts with "I want a 8.0L 4-cylinder quad-turbo diesel Baja with a manual transmission or I'm never buying another Subaru again!!!!" It's all a numbers game. If they won't sell many of them, it's not worth tooling a production line to make it.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Wouldn't that be nice? Unfortunately the take rate on XT's is incredibly low as it is, let alone if it were offered in a manual. I was genuinely surprised they even offered the new Crosstrek in a manual given that less than 1% of first gen Crosstreks were manuals.

Then you get the crazies on FB who comment on Subaru posts with "I want a 8.0L 4-cylinder quad-turbo diesel Baja with a manual transmission or I'm never buying another Subaru again!!!!" It's all a numbers game. If they won't sell many of them, it's not worth tooling a production line to make it.

I don’t know how different the right hand drive and left hand drive parts would be, but they sell more manuals in other markets, so it could be just a matter of making it work on a US assembly line or passing US crash tests with the manual.

Also they improved the manual too, going to a six speed and other associated modifications. The XT is already the performance engine for the Forester, so why not just throw a manual in there too?

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I don’t know how different the right hand drive and left hand drive parts would be, but they sell more manuals in other markets, so it could be just a matter of making it work on a US assembly line or passing US crash tests with the manual.

Also they improved the manual too, going to a six speed and other associated modifications. The XT is already the performance engine for the Forester, so why not just throw a manual in there too?

To put it simply: not enough people would buy one to cover the cost of making the parts and tooling the line to build them.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I don’t know how different the right hand drive and left hand drive parts would be, but they sell more manuals in other markets, so it could be just a matter of making it work on a US assembly line or passing US crash tests with the manual.

Also they improved the manual too, going to a six speed and other associated modifications. The XT is already the performance engine for the Forester, so why not just throw a manual in there too?

Dude it is not that simple. There is far more going on behind the scenes in the car manufacturing business than you can imagine. I have been at it for almost 30 years now and it still boggles my mind. Just because .0000000002% of the car purchasing world want that one very specific vehicle does not mean they can just simply build it.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Dude it is not that simple. There is far more going on behind the scenes in the car manufacturing business than you can imagine. I have been at it for almost 30 years now and it still boggles my mind. Just because .0000000002% of the car purchasing world want that one very specific vehicle does not mean they can just simply build it.

Eh, no cares. Give me my manual.