Emergency Stop Signal (ESS) activation?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gunman

The 3 standard brake lights are still oem, constant on. The low rear fog/triangle light flashes the entire time while the brakes are applied.

Note, I changed the circuit, so the "tail" function is disabled when the brakes are on, so the flash is more dramatic, like the first part of the video.

See that would make me nervous because some old lady would think I was turning and drive into the back of me. The fact that it is in the center would go right past them. It is low and not blinding though so it does have that going for it.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Gunman

The 3 standard brake lights are still oem, constant on. The low rear fog/triangle light flashes the entire time while the brakes are applied.

Note, I changed the circuit, so the "tail" function is disabled when the brakes are on, so the flash is more dramatic, like the first part of the video.

That is super fucking annoying. I'd be tempted to ram you just to make that shit stop.

[gravitylover]

My C30 the brake lights flashed when the ABS kicked on in a panic stop, it didn't cause a problem.

Thursday night I was behind an Acura with a low light like ours that was constantly on and it was so bright I had to look away and almost didn't see him slowing down to turn (with no turn signals ) but my wife did and she yelled for me to stop which cause a near panic stop and the car behind me had to swerve into oncoming traffic to miss me and nearly hit the car in front that caused the problem. I followed the guy into the parking lot and was about to confront him but my wife wouldn't let me because I was freaked and so angry it wouldn't have turned out well. Turned out it was a 20 something with the super cool flat brim hat turned sideways and his pants damn near down to his fkn knees. Yeah, so cool... Can't wait to spot the car around town sometime and take care of that light myself.

[Poodles]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

If we get this crap in the US, accidents will go up in cities like Houston where everyone tailgates because they're trying to "win" traffic and are desperate to keep anybody else from cutting in front of them. What will happen is some stupid fool on one of the big, congested interstates will be distracted by the sudden flashing light in the next lane over, slam on his brakes for no reason and cause the guy behind him (who is also tailgating) to hit him. Then the next five cars will also pile up, because they're all following too closely. Then there will be two to four additional rear-end collisions in the traffic backup that ensues.

Drivers in the US are dumb enough already. Don't distract them with pretty twinkly lights.

Dude, it's Houston, they're horrifically bad drivers there anyway. Stay the F AWAY from Houston people, m'kay?

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you can't see brake lights when they are solid I don't think you will see them any better when flashing.
I recall a long discussion on this when some guy wanted to have his third brake light flashing. The majority seemed to feel it would confuse the hell out of most people. Some of the new LED brake lights are so bright ( @johan I still have images burnt into my retinas) that solid is bad enough and flashing would be brutal.

My low mount valenti tail flashes 3 times then goes solid when I hit my brakes. I don't get tailgated as often and don't have as many near misses either. Mom's Miata also has blinding LED tails that I put on it because she'd been hit more than once by idiots not paying attention.

Originally Posted by Gunman

The 3 standard brake lights are still oem, constant on. The low rear fog/triangle light flashes the entire time while the brakes are applied.

Note, I changed the circuit, so the "tail" function is disabled when the brakes are on, so the flash is more dramatic, like the first part of the video.

Oh hell no. That's just asking for a ticket if you ask me...

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

That is super fucking annoying. I'd be tempted to ram you just to make that shit stop.

No worries, I could use the insurance money.

Originally Posted by poodles

Oh hell no. That's just asking for a ticket if you ask me...

3 years, and not even a remark from a LEO, and i have had plenty sit behind me at stop lights, etc. Funny thing, while I was hooking it up, a cop stopped to talk to me, he was looking for a loud stereo complaint, and figured it was me hooking up a stereo. I explained what I was doing, and he thought it was a good ideal, LOL.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Gunman

3 years, and not even a remark from a LEO, and i have had plenty sit behind me at stop lights, etc.

I'm going to assume this means no astronauts have commented on seeing this from space. Because I find it much more amusing than assuming that LEO stands for something more normal than low earth orbit...

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Gunman

The 3 standard brake lights are still oem, constant on. The low rear fog/triangle light flashes the entire time while the brakes are applied.

Note, I changed the circuit, so the "tail" function is disabled when the brakes are on, so the flash is more dramatic, like the first part of the video.

Oh, that is awful.....

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Back in my motorcycling daze, a woman rear ended me at a light. Low speed, no damage (other than to my blood pressure and her ear drums), she just wasn't paying attention. At the time I had three bikes. For all the ones I used on the street I bought small (1"x3") LED strobes. I set them up so that when the brake lights activated, these guys flashed at 4 cycles per second. They were also bright. Each housing had 3 multi-watt red LEDS. When cycling they were painful to stare at.

In the 8 or so years I ran them that way my conclusion was that people NOTICED them. When I hit the brakes, cars behind me did, too. Much more briskly than before. In addition, they didn't crowd me at lights. That, too was a change. Before the strobes. drivers were like dogs - first thing they'd do at a light was try to sniff your butt.

After being rear ended by a texting estrogen life form in a mini Fiat, I added a strip of red LED's below my brake lights that strobe for a second or two when braking, then turn solid. All the standard brake lights - no strobe.
My experiences are similar to yours. When I tap my brakes, I can see members of the herd giving me space behind me.
Flashing brake lights are illegal here for cars but LEGAL for motorcycles! As a result of studies showing less carnage, our tail light chasers on bikes use them.
Methinks because of that, and or that the strobe is additional and separate, no iron donkey walloper, or car cop has stopped me for that in 5 years (in an obvious track twin, which alone attracts the speed tax collectors!).

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by RFB

After being rear ended by a texting estrogen life form in a mini Fiat, I added a strip of red LED's below my brake lights that strobe for a second or two when braking, then turn solid. All the standard brake lights - no strobe.
My experiences are similar to yours. When I tap my brakes, I can see members of the herd giving me space behind me.
Flashing brake lights are illegal here for cars but LEGAL for motorcycles! As a result of studies showing less carnage, our tail light chasers on bikes use them.
Methinks because of that, and or that the strobe is additional and separate, no iron donkey walloper, or car cop has stopped me for that in 5 years (in an obvious track twin, which alone attracts the speed tax collectors!).

Unfortunately, I was too slow adapting the idea to the front of the bike. In 2014 one of those same lifeforms in a Tahoe ran a red light and brought my motorcycling career, and very nearly my life, to an end. I had been toying with how to put a continuously pulsing 8,000 lumen white light on the front end (a modern take on the old rotating beacons on the front of rail locomotives).

Sadly, day late - dollar short. I did get a nice consolation prize though - several pounds of titanium in various places I'll get to carry into the crematorium.

[Lynxis]

I think flashing panic stop brake lights are a good idea. My anecdote for this was that I was driving down the road and I always leave a good distance between me and the next car. In this case, I was driving 50kph and had about 8 car lengths between me and the mini-van in front of me so there is always plenty of time to stop. There was a brief distraction with some pedestrians on the side of the road that I turned my head to look at for a second at the very moment the mini-van panic stopped. I didn't notice right away but I did see in time to do my own panic stop to avoid hitting them but the minivan following me had to go up onto the curb to avoid rear ending me because I suspect they were distracted by the same thing that I was and noticed me too late.

I think if the lights flashed in a panic stop situation, they would have caught my attention sooner and I would not have had to panic stop at all or even if I did, my own flashing lights would have caught the attention of the driver behind me sooner and they wouldn't have had to swerve to avoid a collision too.

Just my feeling though.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Unfortunately, I was too slow adapting the idea to the front of the bike. In 2014 one of those same lifeforms in a Tahoe ran a red light and brought my motorcycling career, and very nearly my life, to an end. I had been toying with how to put a continuously pulsing 8,000 lumen white light on the front end (a modern take on the old rotating beacons on the front of rail locomotives).

Sadly, day late - dollar short. I did get a nice consolation prize though - several pounds of titanium in various places I'll get to carry into the crematorium.

Ugh, those pulsing front lights on bikes are awful. I have seen peoples' attention draw towards them and then their cars slowly drift that way too. I guess they get attention, but its just like a car flashing on and off their brights constantly in my opinion.


I could never do that on my own bike, knowing how much of an asshole I think those people are, lol.

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I'm going to assume this means no astronauts have commented on seeing this from space. Because I find it much more amusing than assuming that LEO stands for something more normal than low earth orbit...

yes, and Law Enforcement Officers too

[ls1ac]

http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/

[krayzie]

Uh folks this feature has been on German cars for at least 10 years.

Welcome to last decade!