Thinking about switching from BMW 328i to Scion FR-S

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya. We killed that shitstorm before it carried anybody way (for now)

I'm always late to the party.

*grumble grumble*

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Watch Me Run

I've driven every new BMW except for the sports cars (m23456) and I have to say I truly disliked every time I did. I guess I'm not built for it

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NjQK2vUCmQ"]Why BMW's suck - YouTube[/ame]

[nikitopo]

Lol this guy has some problem with this car ...

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Why? we need our monthly MT vs AT flame fest sparked by a perfectly innocent remark. It is tradition.

How else can the MT elitists express their need to be one with the car and show their total lack of knowledge in how a modern sport AT works?

I rather enjoy the passion shown by both sides.

When I bought my previous car (Mazda 626 with a 5spd) my dad said to me "you're pumped on manual right now, but give it a year or so, and you won't be so happy, I know the traffic you drive in to get to work, and you're going to hate driving stick every damn day".

He was right to an extent. It's not like I can't do traffic, I just don't feel the need to sacrifice just to have a third pedal, when really, 80+% of my driving isn't "sporty". While of course the AT isn't entirely up to par with the manual in terms of "fun" (because I can't launch the car, and I can't clutch kick (but how often do any owners do that, outside of sanctioned events?)) it's damn good enough that I don't feel like I'm truly missing out on anything.

I just feel like if you haven't driven the AT, you shouldn't be saying MT or die, bro. And to those who haven't driven one, I recommend that you at least give it a shot, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. (Special invite for you, @Tcoat you can rip my rice mobile around next time I see you)

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Cole

When I bought my previous car (Mazda 626 with a 5spd) my dad said to me "you're pumped on manual right now, but give it a year or so, and you won't be so happy, I know the traffic you drive in to get to work, and you're going to hate driving stick every damn day".

He was right to an extent. It's not like I can't do traffic, I just don't feel the need to sacrifice just to have a third pedal, when really, 80+% of my driving isn't "sporty". While of course the AT isn't entirely up to par with the manual in terms of "fun" (because I can't launch the car, and I can't clutch kick (but how often do any owners do that, outside of sanctioned events?)) it's damn good enough that I don't feel like I'm truly missing out on anything.

I just feel like if you haven't driven the AT, you shouldn't be saying MT or die, bro. And to those who haven't driven one, I recommend that you at least give it a shot, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. (Special invite for you, @Tcoat you can rip my rice mobile around next time I see you)

I neutral drop my car at every red light. :o

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Cole

When I bought my previous car (Mazda 626 with a 5spd) my dad said to me "you're pumped on manual right now, but give it a year or so, and you won't be so happy, I know the traffic you drive in to get to work, and you're going to hate driving stick every damn day".

He was right to an extent. It's not like I can't do traffic, I just don't feel the need to sacrifice just to have a third pedal, when really, 80+% of my driving isn't "sporty". While of course the AT isn't entirely up to par with the manual in terms of "fun" (because I can't launch the car, and I can't clutch kick (but how often do any owners do that, outside of sanctioned events?)) it's damn good enough that I don't feel like I'm truly missing out on anything.

I just feel like if you haven't driven the AT, you shouldn't be saying MT or die, bro. And to those who haven't driven one, I recommend that you at least give it a shot, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. (Special invite for you, @Tcoat you can rip my rice mobile around next time I see you)

I have driven an AT one and that is why I always state that most of the guys saying they are useless don't have a clue. They hear "AT" and seem to think it is the same tranny that is in a 91 Corolla or something. That is far from the truth.


Clearly not the same tranny as you would find in a Corolla

[dtrop]

Wants to avoid costly BMW repairs, but bought a BMW less than a year ago anyways.








*also, did not read thread.

[daiheadjai]

The best thing to do to head off an "AT vs MT" forum war, is do what @Tcoat did a few pages back, and bring in the favourite whipping boy: The CVT.

We CVT drivers wouldn't even be mad - we'd be nodding along somberly.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Lol this guy has some problem with this car ...

Probably one of the most repulsive people I have ever seen on a video! I just wanted to smack him about 30 seconds into it.

"for the price I could buy 8 of my Mustang" is the most telling statement of all!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

The best thing to do to head off an "AT vs MT" forum war, is do what @Tcoat did a few pages back, and bring in the favourite whipping boy: The CVT.

We CVT drivers wouldn't even be mad - we'd be nodding along somberly.

LOL My wife's car has a CVT and I despise it. Even using the paddles does not help. It is the only one I have ever driven so I am sure that they are not all as bad though.

[Jegan_V]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Wow...if I used this guy's standards when judging a car...every single car under $100K is a pile of crap. For me when someone grades a car 0/10...they're either too emotional or outright silly especially when he says it drives nice, which is a giant part of...the car experience. I'm not even that harsh on the Mitsubishi Mirage...or the later Chrysler Sebring and I hate that thing. If the car explodes the moment you start it, injures you and you can't get to where you're going because of it...yeah now I agree with a 0/10.

[mrg666]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

I'm always late to the party.

*grumble grumble*

I can always restart for you. Watch!

All MT drivers are .....

Nah .... it is not fun anymore

[kgc]

After driving the BRZ, the BMW (2007 335i Coupe), felt like a "floaty boat" -- and I bought the BRZ.

[Th3rdSun]

While I really like my FR-S,if I had the money,I would definitely trade it in for an M2.I'm still waiting to see what the next gen WRX/STI looks like though,as that will more than likely be the car that I trade my FR-S in for.