This is the C8 mid-engine Chevy Corvette

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

The only sports car Chevy makes aside from the Corvette is the Camaro. How is that considered a wide variety?

I admit it depends on each person's definition of what constitutes a separate car.

However the Camaro is available with the 1LE package for all 3 engine choices. You've got your base 1LE, SS 1LE, & ZL1 1LE. (personally I'd argue the base isn't a sports car, but would argue anything else is).
And the Corvette is available with 3 different engines and 2 body styles (regular and widebody). Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06 & ZR1.

Compared to Toyota, which is 1 car with only one available configuration. About to be 2 with the Supra (with possibly 2 engines). That's basically my point.

And I'll say it again I am not a domestic apologist.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

For which car? The Cobalt SS had a 2.0T that made 260hp, if I remember correctly, and the Solstice and Sky were Miata rivals. The others had more power than that, pretty sure.

Yeah - that's more of a tongue-in-cheek remark about how much bashing the Toyobaru gets for its power. I have no doubt that it is a sports car. As impressive as a Cobalt SS or Neon SRT4 is, I wouldn't call them sports cars (and this is not a slight against them). Sport compacts or even sport sedans, sure. Performance cars, definitely.
Sports cars? Nah.

As for my original remark about decades, I'm just amused by how the mid-engine Corvette has been shown in some form or another, probably longer than I've been alive - and yet I don't see the same criticism as I do with the (admittedly long) Supra reveal. Although @Dadhawk has a point that we haven't been inundated with camo pics of the Corvette like we have for the Supra*




*Yet.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

And I'll say it again I am not a domestic apologist.

Hardly anything in that list to apologize for, at least not in the recent generations (well, except maybe the Camaro low-end....).

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Hmmm..... is 200hp excellent enough?
(Running away after lighting the fuse)

200 hp is an embarrassment of power levels.
No car should have such paltry power. It needs at least double that and be able to reach 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

Otherwise the car is SLOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

200 hp is an embarrassment of power levels.
No car should have such paltry power. It needs at least double that and be able to reach 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

Otherwise the car is SLOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW

...and it has to cost $20,000 or else its overpriced!

"My Mom's Odyssey can stomp this POS from a stop, all day"

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

...and it has to cost $20,000 or else its overpriced!



"My Mom's Odyssey can stomp this POS from a stop, all day"

$40,000 minivan

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Still doesnt make sense considering Toyota has made a variety of sports cars over the decades also (GT4, Mr2, Corolla XRS, AE86, 86, Celica GTS, Supra, LFA, IS-F, etc)

I don’t know if I agree that Chevy has a wide range of sports cars, but...

I wasn’t really supporting the conclusion, just the premise, that they have had recently more sports vehicles than just the Camaro and Corvette. Toyota has been out of the performance game for much longer, and that is probably where he was going with his initial statement.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Soon Toyota will have the Supra with 2 different engine options, the 86, a 'hot hatch' corolla, a new low priced sports car that has yet to be announced, the LC500, RC-F, and GS-F. Maybe not as many as GM, but still not bad when it comes to variety.

Corolla. Let's include the sonic turbo then!

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Corolla. Let's include the sonic turbo then!

Sure thing. I figured if you brought up trucks I could bring up spiced up economy cars.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Sure thing. I figured if you brought up trucks I could bring up spiced up economy cars.

They don't call them redneck corvettes for nothing!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Yeah - that's more of a tongue-in-cheek remark about how much bashing the Toyobaru gets for its power. I have no doubt that it is a sports car. As impressive as a Cobalt SS or Neon SRT4 is, I wouldn't call them sports cars (and this is not a slight against them). Sport compacts or even sport sedans, sure. Performance cars, definitely.
Sports cars? Nah.

As for my original remark about decades, I'm just amused by how the mid-engine Corvette has been shown in some form or another, probably longer than I've been alive - and yet I don't see the same criticism as I do with the (admittedly long) Supra reveal. Although @Dadhawk has a point that we haven't been inundated with camo pics of the Corvette like we have for the Supra*




*Yet.

We are just in the wrong place. No doubt if you go scour the Corvette forums back a few years you will hear all the same things said about it as you do the Supra here and there are many many renders and camo shots to be viewed. Two different crowds and although the Corvette is a minor side interest here there are probably piles of angry posts about how long it has taken elsewhere in the internet. In fact I would be very surprised if the Corvette fanbase as a whole has ever had any conversations about the Supra. We are a bit more diverse here than many niche car forums.

[Summerwolf]

CF doesn't have one big thread about the new supra, but a bunch of little ones with every update

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

CF doesn't have one big thread about the new supra, but a bunch of little ones with every update

Found ONE and it died in 2014. Didn't dig far but certainly could not find ones with every update.
What I can say is the 'Vette crowd as a whole are not fans

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...cs&query=Supra

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

We are a bit more diverse here than many niche car forums.