Bought the car today! Quick questions

[steve99]

Originally Posted by CatScan

My next full tank will be 87 (US) octane, 91 OFT tune, post data logs. I will drive the car not like a dumbass. IAM will not reach zero.

exactly if you drive sedately as I said in a previous post it will likely be fine although I would not make a habit of it


if you drive it on highway it will likely knock significantly as you accelerate in high gears


Ive actually driven an E85 tune on about E20 as a test for a short period at low rpm/load


, but no one wants to tune their car and drive like that all the time.

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by steve99

exactly if you drive sedately as I said in a previous post it will likely be fine although I would not make a habit of it

Sedately, yes, and I do not make a habit of it. Again, I freely admit to fucking up my E85 fuel planning every now an then.

if you drive it on highway it will likely knock significantly as you accelerate in high gears

If I have crap in the tank, I drive knowing that I do and adjust (not being stupid) so as not to abuse the engine.

Ive actually driven an E85 tune on about E20 as a test for a short period at low rpm/load but no one wants to tune their car and drive like that all the time.

My whole point. Shit happens, and it will not destroy your car if you are not stupid.

Thank you for your post, which is an in your face for FRSBRZGT86FAN.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by CatScan

He is a she. Your assumptions suck ass. Still awaiting objective proof which should be easy.

You're the one touting your OFT and in one thread you just posted a stock photo of it. Why don't you datalog on 87 and then upload it to datazap.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by CatScan

Thank you for your post, which is an in your face for FRSBRZGT86FAN.

You are continually editing your posts, you repeatedly said you drive it with 87 in the tank.

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

You're the one touting your OFT and in one thread you just posted a stock photo of it. Why don't you datalog on 87 and then upload it to datazap.

Try to keep up. It is still on you.

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

You are continually editing your posts, you repeatedly said you drive it with 87 in the tank.

True. I'm trying to not be an ass. However, still waiting for "never" and "always" from you. Since that is hard objective data it should be easy. Where is it? Steve, who I consider to be an SME (who you quoted as proof against what I said) just said you are (mostly) wrong. Still waiting on your objective, factual data.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Yes, I do drive it with 87 in the tank, not on purpose, it's because I fuck up my E85 fuel planning. It has never gone to zero on IAM in MY car. You said it will ALWAYS go to zero and be detrimental to engine longevity. I don't disagree that 87 octane is sub-optimal. You are the one making an absolute statement. Post proof. If not, STFU.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by CatScan

Try to keep up. It is still on you.

No thanks, I'll just admit I'm wrong. Feel free to datalog though and tell me that the IAM doesn't drop to 0 to compound the truth

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Who is a she..??

@Tcoat wants to know ...... he's keeping track, ya know ......


humfrz

No. She is a he. Einhorn is Finkle

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

No thanks, I'll just admit I'm wrong. Feel free to datalog though and tell me that the IAM doesn't drop to 0 to compound the truth

I said I would. Again, try to keep up.

POST EDIT ALARM: 3/4 bag of 91 octane currently on board, don't need to go anywhere until early May. I will make every attempt to burn that gas just for fun as soon as possible and fill with 87, just for you. A hard run to the coast and back should just about kill whats left of my tires and tank of gas. Since you are the expert, what do you think of Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06's on a 17" diameter 8" wide wheel as my next set of tires? Good reviews, but you have the final say being all experty and shit.

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by finch1750

No. She is a he. Einhorn is Finkle

Jim Carrey sucks ass.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by steve99

exactly if you drive sedately as I said in a previous post it will likely be fine although I would not make a habit of it


if you drive it on highway it will likely knock significantly as you accelerate in high gears


Ive actually driven an E85 tune on about E20 as a test for a short period at low rpm/load


, but no one wants to tune their car and drive like that all the time.

I drive almost exclusively on the highway and the three tanks of 87 that I ran (not consecutively) did not create any notable knock at any point. Believe me I was listening. There may be a big difference in overall quality and other additives between the gas in different countries/continents though that could account for that.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Who is a she..??

@Tcoat wants to know ...... he's keeping track, ya know ......


humfrz

I knew that ages ago. You were probably napping again. Still just one of the guys anyway.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Since you quoted my post, I should make clear that I didn't run any of that Alon 89 shit through my BRZ's engine. Luckily I was in a rental. It made for a good fuel management lesson for when I took the BRZ out there on the next trip.

Unfortunately the next trip was when I encountered the Sunoco garbage 91. It made a definite difference in the way the car ran. Extremely sluggish, like being in limp mode. Gas mileage dropped from a normal of 29 mpg for me down to 21 while that shit was running through it. The difference was so pronounced that I was actually a little worried and filled up again with 93 before the tank was empty to try to bring up the octane. There was an immediate, noticeable improvement, even when mixed.



The problem is that Sunoco is not a "mom and pop" place. It's a fairly major brand, albeit second tier. They have bought up a lot of the stations that used to be top tier out in bumfuck Texas and replaced the gas with hog pizzle. The station where I filled up was quite busy, so it's doubtful the stuff had been sitting in the tanks long enough to go stale.

A Sunoco branded station can still be a Mom and Pop operations. Busy and selling 91 do not necessarily go hand in hand in rural areas. They probably have the 91 sit in tanks for years!

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I drive almost exclusively on the highway and the three tanks of 87 that I ran (not consecutively) did not create any notable knock at any point. Believe me I was listening. There may be a big difference in overall quality and other additives between the gas in different countries/continents though that could account for that.

you wont hear knock on these cars unless its extremely bad.


Ive seen knock corrections of -3 degrees and IAM at 0.5 and you don't hear any knock in cabin ,but it sure shows up in the logs.