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navanodd · 04-19-2016, 08:30 PM

My commute is only about 8 mins so unless I'm doing something besides going to work, this thing is running at ambient temps. I notice a huge difference in the car right around the 10C mark. I've got an auto, and when the temps are low it does feel like a slushbox - the torque converter doesn't lock, shifts are lazy, etc. Through a combination of the engine running in a "warm-up" tune of sorts and the transmission doing a poor job in getting the power to the ground, the car feels lethargic to the point that I need to watch for much bigger gaps pulling out into traffic.

Mileage also suffers pretty terribly. Like Tcoat said though, once you're driving for a while and both the engine and transmission reach steady-state temperatures, it drives just like normal.

wireman957 · 04-19-2016, 08:31 PM

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Is that Camelback Mountain?

humfrz · 04-19-2016, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by itsAlex

This is just a mere observation of mine,.......

I feel like this is just me encountering a serious case of the placebo effect, but I know there are subtle differences, I know I can't be tripping out this much.

YES!, spring time, ……. dry roads for a more "confident" drive ..... windows down, to better hear the roar of the exhaust and the intake ........ the exhilarating smell of spring plants blooming, the awesome feel of driving a clean car …….. yep, SHE is running better ……

humfrz

Tcoat · 04-19-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by navanodd

My commute is only about 8 mins so unless I'm doing something besides going to work, this thing is running at ambient temps. I notice a huge difference in the car right around the 10C mark. I've got an auto, and when the temps are low it does feel like a slushbox - the torque converter doesn't lock, shifts are lazy, etc. Through a combination of the engine running in a "warm-up" tune of sorts and the transmission doing a poor job in getting the power to the ground, the car feels lethargic to the point that I need to watch for much bigger gaps pulling out into traffic.

Mileage also suffers pretty terribly. Like Tcoat said though, once you're driving for a while and both the engine and transmission reach steady-state temperatures, it drives just like normal.

LOL See that is where I am the polar opposite! My commutes are 2 hours each way, twice a week and the car is acting the same as if it was the middle of summer after about 15 minutes into it. Yours just never gets the chance to truly warm up.

Tcoat · 04-19-2016, 08:53 PM

Hmm wont let me quote @humfrz

Not flowers we are smelling around here right now

And yet another why the hell did THIS come up when searching manure spreader moment!!??

navanodd · 04-19-2016, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL See that is where I am the polar opposite! My commutes are 2 hours each way, twice a week and the car is acting the same as if it was the middle of summer after about 15 minutes into it. Yours just never gets the chance to truly warm up.

Sounds about right. My car definitely hates me for it. Normally in the winter I only get 250-300km per tank of gas - but if I do a long highway drive and it warms up I can fairly easily push that to 650.

Tcoat · 04-19-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by navanodd

Sounds about right. My car definitely hates me for it. Normally in the winter I only get 250-300km per tank of gas - but if I do a long highway drive and it warms up I can fairly easily push that to 650.

I burn two tanks a week so don't know totals but in winter I drop from about 6.8 L/100km to 7.1 so the combo of warm up and all highway really helps.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 04-19-2016, 09:54 PM

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I burn two tanks a week so don't know totals but in winter I drop from about 6.8 L/100km to 7.1 so the combo of warm up and all highway really helps.

That seems right, in colder whether the timing retards a bit and the car gets a bit richer

Tcoat · 04-19-2016, 09:58 PM

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That seems right, in colder whether the timing retards a bit and the car gets a bit richer

And it sits and idles long enough to melt the ice off the windshield.

humfrz · 04-19-2016, 10:01 PM

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Hmm wont let me quote @humfrz

Not flowers we are smelling around here right

Well, like they say in the old country, "you reap what you sow" ......

humfrz

Tcoat · 04-19-2016, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, like they say in the old country, "you reap what you sow" ......

humfrz

Who planted that mole hill?

dvasqu01 · 04-19-2016, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Hmm wont let me quote @humfrz

Not flowers we are smelling around here right now

And yet another why the hell did THIS come up when searching manure spreader moment!!??

Idk but I can't stop starring at it lol

Weigaldo · 04-20-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

That seems right, in colder whether the timing retards a bit and the car gets a bit richer

That would explain why my exhaust isn't caked in soot anymore.

luigitalarico · 04-22-2016, 08:12 PM

The entire platform hates the cold weather, very noticeably in the transmission. I wouldn't call it a placebo effect, it genuinely is better to drive in warm weather.

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navanodd Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Sport-tech WRB Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 308 Thanks: 95 Thanked 171 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My commute is only about 8 mins so unless I'm doing something besides going to work, this thing is running at ambient temps. I notice a huge difference in the car right around the 10C mark. I've got an auto, and when the temps are low it does feel like a slushbox - the torque converter doesn't lock, shifts are lazy, etc. Through a combination of the engine running in a "warm-up" tune of sorts and the transmission doing a poor job in getting the power to the ground, the car feels lethargic to the point that I need to watch for much bigger gaps pulling out into traffic. Mileage also suffers pretty terribly. Like Tcoat said though, once you're driving for a while and both the engine and transmission reach steady-state temperatures, it drives just like normal.

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luigitalarico Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: '15 Halo FR-S Location: Levittown Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The entire platform hates the cold weather, very noticeably in the transmission. I wouldn't call it a placebo effect, it genuinely is better to drive in warm weather.

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