track guy must see

[Silverspeed]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Watch the video again, at 55s, dude looks left and sees his wheel flying away at what, 70mph? 85? If that's not a sight to see I don't know what is.

Having a good attitude about "shit happens" while doing this kind of thing is the difference between having a good time and doing it for most of your life or having high blood pressure, getting burned out, and being compared to Juan Pablo Montoya.

So true on both statements.. How did that old country song go? "You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel...."

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Silverspeed

Also a good lesson to share about the wheels for sure. And also maybe to try to not to jump the curbing at 80 as well. Clearly the wheel had an issue before he took to the track, but IMO hitting curb such that you leave the ground probably didn't help.

At Buttonwillow, the only way to get faster Bus Stop into Riverside is to hop that curb.

Every single person wanting a fast time at that track does it.

CSG (start at 1:05 mark if it doesn't auto play)

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Watch the video again, at 55s, dude looks left and sees his wheel flying away at what, 70mph? 85? If that's not a sight to see I don't know what is.

Where he lost his wheel, I was doing ~85MPH on the same tires.

Someone with much bigger balls than me would do 90+ WOT.

-alex

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Silverspeed

I'm not a track day guy (yet) but the one time I did do a day session at Watkins Glen my instructor frowned upon such things. The idea was to touch the edge of the curbing at the apex without hopping over it. Of course, as a very much amateur that I was, I certainly wasn't approaching the speeds this dude was in the turns so it was a lot easier to avoid such heavy contact. I was more interested in negotiating the course correctly than about lap times.

It just seems to me if you're not wheel to wheel with someone that leaving the ground might be able to be avoided? I'm sure I'll eat those words someday....

It's frowned upon the same way you're supposed to brake straight, and not go wide open throttle until you're straight, and smooth is fast.

Once you have a grasp of the basics, a lot of the techniques used to teach beginners fundamentals go out the window.

[CSG Mike]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uugX4tehORM&t=1M3S"]FR-S Buttonwillow 13CW 2:01.9 - YouTube[/ame] (go to 1:03)

[Silverspeed]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Where he lost his wheel, I was doing ~85MPH on the same tires.

Someone with much bigger balls than me would do 90+ WOT.

-alex

Maybe it's just the camera, or more likely the car, but neither video looks as violent as the lost wheel dude. It is most certainly the same line though. Great video's!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Silverspeed

Maybe it's just the camera, or more likely the car, but neither video looks as violent as the lost wheel dude. It is most certainly the same line though. Great video's!

Here's a better shot of what 99.99999% of guys at Buttonwillow do to drive fast:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJXMlIO28Y"]E92 M3 Buttonwillow 13 CW 1:57 - YouTube[/ame]

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by mav1178

At Buttonwillow, the only way to get faster Bus Stop into Riverside is to hop that curb.

Every single person wanting a fast time at that track does it.

CSG (start at 1:05 mark if it doesn't auto play)

Where he lost his wheel, I was doing ~85MPH on the same tires.

Someone with much bigger balls than me would do 90+ WOT.

-alex

I did a slide (I think shocks are donezo) and about a 20 degree angle into the apex at 97mph with a car that likes to rotate more than stick. I think you will be fine.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by CSG David

I did a slide (I think shocks are donezo) and about a 20 degree angle into the apex at 97mph with a car that likes to rotate more than stick. I think you will be fine.

LIke you said on Saturday, I'm just getting old...

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by mav1178

LIke you said on Saturday, I'm just getting old...

The old guys didn't come out to show the young bloods on how to go fast. Those guys are the real God Hands.

[jmimac351]

I saw a Miata wheel from a well known aftermarket Miata wheel vendor do the same thing at Watkins Glen. It wasn't the first time that'd happened with that particular wheel, that I'd heard of. That vendor made changes in the casting process to resolve the issue. Street tires may be "OK" with Chinese-ium wheels. I would not run real grip on them. If real grip and curbs cause Enkei wheels to bend...

[Silverspeed]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Here's a better shot of what 99.99999% of guys at Buttonwillow do to drive fast:

I think I soiled myself around the 1:40 mark just watching that video.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

It's frowned upon the same way you're supposed to brake straight, and not go wide open throttle until you're straight, and smooth is fast.
Once you have a grasp of the basics, a lot of the techniques used to teach beginners fundamentals go out the window.

I'm pretty sure smooth is fast even at the top level of motorsports.

[LOLS2K]

Originally Posted by Pat

I'm pretty sure smooth is fast even at the top level of motorsports.

Usually the case but

[Kostamojen]

I'm just here cause I'm curious where the wheel wound up going