Twincharged 2JZ BRZ?

[Cole]

I will reply to this with an anecdote from my younger years.

I decided I wanted to start riding motorcycles. Spoke with my dad about it and he said "well, I won't help you buy one, but you can buy one, tidy up the garage and find space to store it". Well, the next week I got my income tax return (A hefty 1200, thank god for being a student and making close to 20k with the reserves that year) and a friend of mine just happened to be selling his CBR125R. He knocked the price down from 2k to 1.5k. He delivered it to me, and I bought it on the spot, knowing fuck all about bikes.

After 22 days of riding it, I decided I needed something bigger, faster and meaner. So I sold it, and bought possibly the rattiest Yamaha R6 in existence. Dumped much money into getting it to pass a safety check. I did all kinds of stupid shit. I went 200kmh in 80 zones, lane split, etc. I was a fucking badass with a street fighter. I looked cool as fuck riding around in tight jeans, tennis shoes, a wife beater and a neon helmet. Well, ten days (of no accidents, no dumps, a miracle, for sure) after buying it, I blew the motor on it and couldn't find or afford a replacement. I sold it for pennies compared to what I had into it.

Now that I have a couple years of sitting on that experience, I realize now that I should have stuck with the 125, and really learned how to properly ride that bike. It could have been such a fun momentum thing, carrying it through tight turns easily because of how small and light it was. It was relatively low risk, and hard to get into trouble with. Instead, I seriously risked dying by getting a bigger bike so quickly, and not having any skills to deal with it. When the engine on the R6 went out, I was doing about 95kmh, and the rear end locked up. I didn't even know that pulling the clutch lever would have let the rear wheel continue to turn, saving me from a skid that easily could have laid me down, and sent me careening across the pavement with my skin being ripped off, but again, I got lucky.

What does this rambling story have to do with your situation? Learn to properly drive a slow car, and then graduate to a fast car.

[wutsaiu]

Never put your idea for a project on the internet and ask for advice. Specific questions on certain aspects or parts... fine, but a whole project.... no.

If you want to do something and have the money, time, and have done your research, just do it and post a build thread. I didn't post a single thing about my V8 swap until it was at least drive-able.

Most people assume guys who start these threads have no idea what they are doing, and they are probably right. I doubt many serious projects start with asking the internet "should I do this?".

[86kahl]

Originally Posted by AgentNH

My Parents have agreed to help with cost

Do it. Do it all. Matter of fact,have your parents pay me and I'll do it. I'll twin charge V8 swap a damn golf kart if someone's rich parents are willing to sign a blank check
😂😂

[Calum]

This car with stock power is more than enough to get an inexperienced driver into trouble. Go get a Civic and play with it until the traction control is actually holding you back, instead of saving your ass. Then figure out how to switch it off (I have no idea how easy/hard that is, I've never owned a Civic) and learn some more. Some high performance driving education would not be a bad idea either.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Calum

This car with stock power is more than enough to get an inexperienced driver into trouble. Go get a Civic and play with it until the traction control is actually holding you back, instead of saving your ass. Then figure out how to switch it off (I have no idea how easy/hard that is, I've never owned a Civic) and learn some more. Some high performance driving education would not be a bad idea either.

That is still a couple of steps ahead of where he needs to be. Step one is to wait until old enough to get a driver's licence.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by wutsaiu

Never put your idea for a project on the internet and ask for advice. Specific questions on certain aspects or parts... fine, but a whole project.... no.

If you want to do something and have the money, time, and have done your research, just do it and post a build thread. I didn't post a single thing about my V8 swap until it was at least drive-able.

Most people assume guys who start these threads have no idea what they are doing, and they are probably right. I doubt many serious projects start with asking the internet "should I do this?".

This^^^^^

Even an idea or actual plan may be just fine if you can speak intel entry about the subject and at least appear to know what you are doing. Posting dreams are cool to as long as it is recognized as a dream. Posting "what should I do?" And It should be easy" when clueless about the realities is a bad bad idea. Just gets worse when a dream is posted as a plan and people that try to speak reality are told they are just haters or negative.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by Cole

I will reply to this with an anecdote from my younger years.

I have heard many anecdotes of this nature.

You know what I took from anecdotes like this?

The same thing I posted a few pages ago.

It's a philosophy that guides my life.

Educate. Yourself.

Do it by any and every means necessary. Forget "learning on slow stuff," That's code for "push your skill level beyond your knowledge level until you have just enough of a false sense of security to kill yourself. Hope that your superior skill can carry your deficient knowledge until you're done"

Learn on anything and everything you can learn on. Push your abilities and your knowledge on a regular basis.

When it breaks down, dont sell it, learn to fix it.

Buy broken things that other people have given up on for "pennies compared to what they have in it," fix them, and keep on rolling. When you're bored with them and want to upgrade, sell them in better shape for more money than you have in them.

Control your project budget so that you can regularly make a profit or break even, or at least not lose out big time... and you will always have money to "project" with.

[Norville Rogers]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

I have heard many anecdotes of this nature.

You know what I took from anecdotes like this?

The same thing I posted a few pages ago.

It's a philosophy that guides my life.

Educate. Yourself.

Do it by any and every means necessary. Forget "learning on slow stuff," That's code for "push your skill level beyond your knowledge level until you have just enough of a false sense of security to kill yourself. Hope that your superior skill can carry your deficient knowledge until you're done"

Learn on anything and everything you can learn on. Push your abilities and your knowledge on a regular basis.

When it breaks down, dont sell it, learn to fix it.

Buy broken things that other people have given up on for "pennies compared to what they have in it," fix them, and keep on rolling. When you're bored with them and want to upgrade, sell them in better shape for more money than you have in them.

Control your project budget so that you can regularly make a profit or break even, or at least not lose out big time... and you will always have money to "project" with.

You haven't mentioned World Peace.

That would be great too.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers

You haven't mentioned World Peace.

That would be great too.

Whatever. So you think that's unrealistic. What a clever way to suggest that you think so.

Everything I suggested I've done myself. I've got the knowledge, the experience, and the scars to prove it.

Get back under the bridge.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

Whatever. So you think that's unrealistic. What a clever way to suggest that you think so.

Everything I suggested I've done myself. I've got the knowledge, the experience, and the scars to prove it.

Get back under the bridge.

And everything you suggested is great providing you have the time, motivation, space and funds to allow for that.

I spent months searching for a replacement motor. Wasn't happening for less than 3k. To get the bike to a redeemable point where it would be an easy sell, I'd be over 6k into, and the bike was worth maybe 4K. I made a bad purchase as a 20 year old who didn't know a thing about bikes.

Did I have the room to rebuild the motor? Fuck no. Did I have the money? Sure, if I wanted to drag it out over a year or more. Did I have time to do it? Nah, not really. Being a student with 35 hours of class and 35-50 hours of work per week during September to April, then being away from home for months at a time, not exactly conducive to projects.

It is unrealistic as fuck to expect everyone to be able to undertake any single project you can. What a hilariously narrow viewpoint. Good for you that you have time, space, tools and money. Not everyone has those things. I'm happy for you that you're able to rub that fact in other people's faces, kinda speaks to the kind of person you are.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by Cole

And everything you suggested is great providing you have the time, motivation, space and funds to allow for that.

...

It is unrealistic as fuck to expect everyone to be able to undertake any single project you can. What a hilariously narrow viewpoint. Good for you that you have time, space, tools and money. Not everyone has those things. I'm happy for you that you're able to rub that fact in other people's faces, kinda speaks to the kind of person you are.

Oh I told myself over and over to avoid getting in arguments on the Internet for this reason.

I didn't attack you in my post, I didn't accuse you of being a bad person, I didn't say you were an idiot. Don't be a d*ck.

I offered an alternative viewpoint, that is all.

Let's address the time money tools argument. Thank for that, you know nothing about me. I was a normal lower middle class kid like anone else. One working parent who was a schoolteacher. Yeah, lots of money there.

Yes, I did reasonably well and I have a little money now and part of that is lucky breaks, but I worked f*cing hard for what I have. I worked three jobs while I was at a cheap state college to avoid going into debt.

I made mistakes too, I lost money on dumb stuff, like ratty motorbikes. My first bike was the rattiest ex500 in the world, but I didn't have my parents garage to work in or store it in... I bought the thing without consent, hell, without a license. I hid the thing at a friend's house.

More alternative views, remembering that hindsight is 20/20 and we all have room to improve on our decisions. Sure, perhaps you couldn't find a replacement engine for less than 3k, but you could have bought a factory service manual, cracked open the engine you had, and rebuilt it for a few hundred bucks, tops. Bought parts from eBay or the local Yamaha dealer for full-face retail. Rented tools from auto zone or borrowed them from the parents garage you said you had available, and consulted the Internet when you got stuck. Space?? I rebuilt my first motorcycle engine on a desk.... which I totally trashed mounting a vise on...

Anybody else can do anything I do. I'm no genius and I'm no millionaire. I don't even have a garage. I rent space from a friend at full market price, after asking literally dozens of shops to rent bay space and being turned down every time.

[Guff]

Why is this thread still going?


Oh, haha, it's not.