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Old 03-05-2014, 02:09 PM   #6371
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They are 18" 2013 STI Limited BBS wheels. 18x8.5 on spacer adapters. Weigh about 20 lbs.
what about these ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...0f659b&vxp=mtr

so need spacer adapters ?
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A screen does help a lot and it's a cheap DIY. However, I could totally lose AC without getting too upset (obviously I'm not in AZ), and I've dealt with leaky radiators before (excuse to buy a Koyo). But a boost leak? Ugh...headache! I mean, you can't just top it off with more air when you get to work.


Oh yeah, as for what I've done to my BRZ recently...I went to the dealer for some warranty work (finally). Totally my bad for not reading thoroughly (or just plain forgetting) but I didn't realize there was a $100 deductible for the extended warranty! I went to a new dealer this time, because the last one had piss-poor service and wouldn't call when parts were in, etc. So instead of getting something fixed for free, I was put off until I gave up and went it after the standard warranty was already over (yup, I'm over 41k right now).

The good news is that almost everything is getting fixed that I wanted. New HPFP (no more chirps...for now) and ordering new window switch and parts for GPS fix. I had a CEL but they couldn't duplicate the problem (misfire cyl #1). We'll see on that one. Oh, also got a reflash to fix idle hesitation.
Seeing how common FMICs are for turbo, and how little one hears about functional IC damage due to road conditions, I wouldn't think this to be that big of an issue. A possibility? Sure, but not that big of one.

And I'd think a hole in the radiator to be a MUCH more serious issue than a boost leak. If you're tuned for speed density, a boost leak isn't going to kill the engine, as the tune isn't going to get confused. But loss of coolant in the engine WILL kill it very fast if you're not on the ball about spiking engine temps.

Yet we don't see many stories about this happening, thankfully.

I wouldn't be too worried.

A TMIC has a massive host of performance problems, honestly: sitting on top of a hot engine is one big one. Also, lack of space (by necessity, it isn't as big as an FMIC), and lack of airflow (a hood scoop doesn't get near as much airflow as the front bumper).

You do have the benefit of short IC piping with a TMIC, but you also have to have the hood clearance to place one. The engine bay design doesn't allow for this. The hood simply sits too low. You'd have to design an entirely new hood with a power bulge large enough to fit a TMIC under it, and THEN put a hood scoop in there. It'd be this massive aero-drag piece on the front and look ugly as sin.... all for an IC which doesn't flow as well as an FMIC (which when done right looks stealth).

Not worth it, IMO.
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what about these ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUBARU-IMPRE...0f659b&vxp=mtr

so need spacer adapters ?
Hey you! How ya been? I lost your number.

Yes, 5x114.3 requires spacer adapters and might require your lugs to be shaved down to fit if there's not enough back pocket behind the wheels. Those wheels are beautiful. I had them on my 2011 WRX. They're heavy, though, so I didn't consider them for my BRZ for very long. Maybe if I had a turbo or something, then yeah.
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Seeing how common FMICs are for turbo, and how little one hears about functional IC damage due to road conditions, I wouldn't think this to be that big of an issue. A possibility? Sure, but not that big of one.

And I'd think a hole in the radiator to be a MUCH more serious issue than a boost leak. If you're tuned for speed density, a boost leak isn't going to kill the engine, as the tune isn't going to get confused. But loss of coolant in the engine WILL kill it very fast if you're not on the ball about spiking engine temps.

Yet we don't see many stories about this happening, thankfully.

I wouldn't be too worried.

A TMIC has a massive host of performance problems, honestly: sitting on top of a hot engine is one big one. Also, lack of space (by necessity, it isn't as big as an FMIC), and lack of airflow (a hood scoop doesn't get near as much airflow as the front bumper).

You do have the benefit of short IC piping with a TMIC, but you also have to have the hood clearance to place one. The engine bay design doesn't allow for this. The hood simply sits too low. You'd have to design an entirely new hood with a power bulge large enough to fit a TMIC under it, and THEN put a hood scoop in there. It'd be this massive aero-drag piece on the front and look ugly as sin.... all for an IC which doesn't flow as well as an FMIC (which when done right looks stealth).

Not worth it, IMO.
Oh totally, I wasn't saying a TMIC on this car would be a good idea (nor look good!). I was responding to the guy who asked why turbo Subarus have top mounts. There are definitely trade-offs, but apprarently TMIC was what worked best for Subaru engineers.

And I don't mean to downplay the significance of a leaking radiator, but I've had plenty of that and delt with it by adding fluid as needed or using some leak fix gunk. I have not had a boost leak, but I've watched as friends tear their hair out trying to find one. It's way easier when you can see fluid dripping and a puddle under the car!
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Oh totally, I wasn't saying a TMIC on this car would be a good idea (nor look good!). I was responding to the guy who asked why turbo Subarus have top mounts. There are definitely trade-offs, but apprarently TMIC was what worked best for Subaru engineers.
I thought a TMIC is good for rally cars so if the front gets mangled you could have a better chance to still keep going.
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Hey you! How ya been? I lost your number.

Yes, 5x114.3 requires spacer adapters and might require your lugs to be shaved down to fit if there's not enough back pocket behind the wheels. Those wheels are beautiful. I had them on my 2011 WRX. They're heavy, though, so I didn't consider them for my BRZ for very long. Maybe if I had a turbo or something, then yeah.
lol, I still have u on Whatsapp.

Btw, for the BBS wheels, which spacer adapters did you get and how was the fitment ?

did you lower your car or is it still stock right now ?

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Oh totally, I wasn't saying a TMIC on this car would be a good idea (nor look good!). I was responding to the guy who asked why turbo Subarus have top mounts. There are definitely trade-offs, but apprarently TMIC was what worked best for Subaru engineers.

And I don't mean to downplay the significance of a leaking radiator, but I've had plenty of that and delt with it by adding fluid as needed or using some leak fix gunk. I have not had a boost leak, but I've watched as friends tear their hair out trying to find one. It's way easier when you can see fluid dripping and a puddle under the car!
It's not what worked best for the engineers. Speaking as an engineer, we don't get to make these decisions. It was the bean counters who decided a TMIC was more financially viable than an FMIC and TOLD the engineers "design it with a TMIC."
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Wait till somebody starts asking why no double wishbone suspension at the front (however I didn't read all 295 pages to be sure).
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lol, I still have u on Whatsapp.

Btw, for the BBS wheels, which spacer adapters did you get and how was the fitment ?

did you lower your car or is it still stock right now ?

thanks
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Project Kics. I think for the price of $450, they're good, but would've rather got Mach V's for about $280. I just didn't know they existed. I assume I paid top price for top quality from Evasive Motorsport, so who knows.

The tires are overly sized. They're 245/45R18, so they fill in the gap nicely, but rub when I do full lock either side. When I had the stock summer tires on they were fine. I would rather retain the width, so next summer tires will be 245/40R18. Lower profile looks nicer.
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ordered, wheels, tires, lugs nutz. all should arrive around monday with my tails and drop in filter. 15k and 1 year birthday present for my car.
Holy crap, for a second I thought you meant $15k and was like, "WTF wheels did you buy!?!?!"

MILES...I get it now.

So...what wheels/tires did you get?
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Anyway, today I washed and waxed since it wasn't raining and took some horribly dark pictures. I really need the get the STi rears.

Do you have any more pictures of your BRZ? I have an SSM one too and I was wondering how it'd look like with STi trim.
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I don't know much about subaru engines, have they always had a top mounted intercooler on turbo models?

Is there a good reason for that or is it just because hood scoops look cool?
Another reason is for safety. Subaru would probably prefer not crashing the IC at a frontal impact on a street-savvy production vehicle. I'm not sure how the Mitsu Evo's deal with that, though. I don't know what their overall safety rating is and if having a front mount IC affects that rating.
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Do you have any more pictures of your BRZ? I have an SSM one too and I was wondering how it'd look like with STi trim.
I don't have any good pictures. They're all horrible angles
I'll snap some better ones tomorrow if I remember.
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