This is Why Tailgating is a Bad Idea

[dalli]

The person who lost control of their car is in trouble here.

Its a 2 lane road with people merging onto this 2 land road.

tail-gater should have seen people merging and slow down to give another chance to the person in the left lane to go on the right lane safely.


Being on the highway and roads is not funny business. Always be prepared to be brake checked ALWAYS.

I drive 8 to 12 hours a day in my BRZ in New york city and NY/NJ. I never brake check people. I just put my hazard lights on if people tailgate me.

I see too many people who disregard safety of others around them. You want to tailgate, u should be on trial for attempted murder or be sent to prison without trial for terrorism.

Learn to drive!


Government and cities need to re look at giving away drivers licenses. Need to put some seriousness behind the classes and courses given to potential drivers.


/rant

[Peaty]

Originally Posted by dalli

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I drive 8 to 12 hours a day in my BRZ in New york city and NY/NJ. I never brake check people. I just put my hazard lights on if people tailgate me.

I had a heated discussion with my son about using hazard lights in bad weather etc. I always thought it was okay he said, only when you are not moving. Turns out he was right.

http://blog.esurance.com/warning-you...s-incorrectly/

I learned to drive NY NJ and for years only got around on a motorcycle. I honestly thing driving a motorcycle makes you a much safer driver in a car. I'm always thinking what might happen next looking way ahead and back.

[dalli]

Originally Posted by Peaty

I had a heated discussion with my son about using hazard lights in bad weather etc. I always thought it was okay he said, only when you are not moving. Turns out he was right.

http://blog.esurance.com/warning-you...s-incorrectly/

I learned to drive NY NJ and for years only got around on a motorcycle. I honestly thing driving a motorcycle makes you a much safer driver in a car. I'm always thinking what might happen next looking way ahead and back.

Lol haha

Thank you for this, I guess I will not use in NJ.

Lol most rear ends that almost happen to me were in NJ. good thing there is lots of room on the shoulder on the turnpike versus the expressway/parkways of nyc.

I will continue to use in NYC. Why? It works 100% of the time. they back off(sometimes people dont know they are too close to your bumper and need a bit of warning).

I dont want to brake check people, it makes them either rear end you or enrage them even further.

Btw I get tailgated in every lane except for left. (i only go on left to pass or when in b2b traffic)

I myself will be getting a motorcycle in mid summer

edit:

if people get confused by hazard lights... they need to take the bus/train/car pool

[Impureclient]

Lead SUV did nothing wrong. None of us know for sure if it was even a brake check, a rock hitting the car, or any of a million possibilities for tapping the brakes.
The lead car stayed in the left lane. as they should. while another SUV was pulling onto the highway to allow them in safely.
The "brake checker" has no reason to stop either unless they just want to take pictures to post on their Facebook about the idiot behind them.
There's no law stating you have to pull over and help other drivers out especially aggressive ones.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mdm

Oh no, I wouldn't even try. But I think that technically someone driving 55 in 55 in the left lane while everyone is going 70 should get a ticket too.


Of course in reality they won't*, but this law gives me the feeling of righteousness and moral superiority when I come upon someone doing just the speed limit in the left lane ;-).




*Same as they won't get reckless driving conviction when they turn or change lanes without turn signal, though technically they should.

Oh ya the guy doing 55 is a moronic asshat but he is within the law. As much as that suck!!!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Peaty

I had a heated discussion with my son about using hazard lights in bad weather etc. I always thought it was okay he said, only when you are not moving. Turns out he was right.

http://blog.esurance.com/warning-you...s-incorrectly/

I learned to drive NY NJ and for years only got around on a motorcycle. I honestly thing driving a motorcycle makes you a much safer driver in a car. I'm always thinking what might happen next looking way ahead and back.

I fear people that use 4 ways while moving through heavy fog, rain or snow. See them in the distance and not sure if they are moving, on the side of the road or in the middle of a field. Do I drive around them, stay behind them or stop? Sometimes can't tell until you are very close and then you find you followed them into a snow covered field and they were stopped all along.

[dalli]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I fear people that use 4 ways while moving through heavy fog, rain or snow. See them in the distance and not sure if they are moving, on the side of the road or in the middle of a field. Do I drive around them, stay behind them or stop? Sometimes can't tell until you are very close and then you find you followed them into a snow covered field and they were stopped all along.

Canada :O

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by dalli

Lol haha

Thank you for this, I guess I will not use in NJ.

Lol most rear ends that almost happen to me were in NJ. good thing there is lots of room on the shoulder on the turnpike versus the expressway/parkways of nyc.

I will continue to use in NYC. Why? It works 100% of the time. they back off(sometimes people dont know they are too close to your bumper and need a bit of warning).

I dont want to brake check people, it makes them either rear end you or enrage them even further.

Btw I get tailgated in every lane except for left. (i only go on left to pass or when in b2b traffic)

I myself will be getting a motorcycle in mid summer

edit:

if people get confused by hazard lights... they need to take the bus/train/car pool

Hazard lights are for stopped cars indicating a hazard as per their name. See my prior post!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Crashdummy

Also when one truck try's to pass another its like watching paint dry.

Our major highways have a speed limit of 100KPH. Most of the traffic, including the cops, drive between 120 and 130 (except around Toronto where it is more like 12 to 13). Semi trucks here must be governed to not exceed 105KPH. They are allowed to pass. Some trucks can do 105.2 KPH. They pass the ones doing 105. Do the math on how bloody long THAT takes!

[Peaty]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I fear people that use 4 ways while moving through heavy fog, rain or snow. See them in the distance and not sure if they are moving, on the side of the road or in the middle of a field. Do I drive around them, stay behind them or stop? Sometimes can't tell until you are very close and then you find you followed them into a snow covered field and they were stopped all along.

I almost wish US cars came with a rear fog lamp. Until I get behind a bonehead in a Volvo with it on in nice weather that is. Around here people won't turn on the headlamps in the rain, dusk or dawn expecting them to know how to use a rear fog lamp would be asking too much.

I retrofitted one in my 99 RS and only used it a handful of times.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Peaty

I almost wish US cars came with a rear fog lamp. Until I get behind a bonehead in a Volvo with it on in nice weather that is. Around here people won't turn on the headlamps in the rain, dusk or dawn expecting them to know how to use a rear fog lamp would be asking too much.

I retrofitted one in my 99 RS and only used it a handful of times.

Be afraid to use one. Would just confuse the hell out of everybody and probably cause panic on the highways.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Be afraid to use one. Would just confuse the hell out of everybody and probably cause panic on the highways.

[mdm]

I like how hazards are used in Europe (particularly in Germany) while (still) moving - when there is a problem on a motorway/Autobahn and everybody is suddenly slowing down, possibly stopping. So it's about signaling to people behind you that it's not just an occasional temporary slow-down, but that they should be prepared to brake hard.

It is especially important at Autobahn speeds ~90-100 mph typically (except those in the left lane going 160 mph), but I like that the custom seems to spread to the US. Speeds here are much lower here but it's offset by people paying less attention.

[Joyride86]

For some unknown reason while I was watching the video, Ludacris' "Move Bitch" song just popped into my head. I wonder what the tailgater was listening to at the time of the accident. Coincidence...I think not.