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Old 04-22-2016, 02:32 PM   #8905
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Haha I'm glad you said it first. But yeah, it doesn't have to be an LS. I know people hate LS swaps. I'm not saying that specifically, but literally anything else would be more reliable, right? Or at least cheaper. And I get that this is an idea which, on the internet, no flame suit could ever protect your ass from the amount of hate you've brought upon yourself. I share here because I'm among friends (I hope).


I get why it's a horrible/hated idea. I get why people wouldn't dream of nosediving the value for such a stupid reason, but I look at things differently because I've only been a car guy for 3 years. I've always been a money guy though. Cheap, easy, and attainable are key factors. You'll never sale the damn thing for anything more than pennies, but who the hell cares? You have a Ferrari you can actually drive, that won't cost a fortune at an overpriced dealership when you break it. It's blasphemy, but the key fact here is you drive a Ferrari and the people that hate you, well they don't.
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:33 PM   #8906
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Well yeah... but we don't "need"pilots on the aircraft so if the f22 had been designed as a drone... how much better could it have been? Unless they are concerned about the signal being jammed or something and decided they still want pilots onboard. I really hope they considered this stuff before building them...
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The only thing A K20 belongs in besides a Honda is a classic Mini Cooper or somehow an FC (because then it would be a K-FC and that is too good to pass up)
Lotus Elise is a common swap chassis for it. Turns out no one likes the toyota motor in it LOL
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:34 PM   #8908
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Haha I'm glad you said it first. But yeah, it doesn't have to be an LS. I know people hate LS swaps. I'm not saying that specifically, but literally anything else would be more reliable, right? Or at least cheaper. And I get that this is an idea which, on the internet, no flame suit could ever protect your ass from the amount of hate you've brought upon yourself. I share here because I'm among friends (I hope).


I get why it's a horrible/hated idea. I get why people wouldn't dream of nosediving the value for such a stupid reason, but I look at things differently because I've only been a car guy for 3 years. I've always been a money guy though. Cheap, easy, and attainable are key factors. You'll never sale the damn thing for anything more than pennies, but who the hell cares? You have a Ferrari you can actually drive, that won't cost a fortune at an overpriced dealership when you break it. It's blasphemy, but the key fact here is you drive a Ferrari and the people that hate you, well they don't.
But would the cost of the swap outweigh the moneh saved over time?

And honestly I'd rather have no Ferrari then one with a LS swap.
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:35 PM   #8909
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Lotus Elise is a common swap chassis for it. Turns out no one likes the toyota motor in it LOL
Yeah. The 2zz really lacks torque. Its done in MR2 spyders as well for the same reason and is OK imo. Though for the cost Id rather do a 3S or Previa V6 into the spyder
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:41 PM   #8910
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But would the cost of the swap outweigh the moneh saved over time?

And honestly I'd rather have no Ferrari then one with a LS swap.
That depends. Lets say you find a cheap one ($25k) and lets say you budget for headaches ($30k for the swap). You now have a reliable, old Ferrari that cost you $55k, let's call it an even $60k. It's probably worthless, but you want to keep it forever anyways. There's no dealership oil changes or maintenance, you fix it yourself. It probably gets better gas mileage and won't break near as often. I think over time that's a bargain.


And like I said, doesn't have to be an LS. I don't know anything better off the top of my head though.
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That depends. Lets say you find a cheap one ($25k) and lets say you budget for headaches ($30k for the swap). You now have a reliable, old Ferrari that cost you $55k, let's call it an even $60k. It's probably worthless, but you want to keep it forever anyways. There's no dealership oil changes or maintenance, you fix it yourself. It probably gets better gas mileage and won't break near as often. I think over time that's a bargain.


And like I said, doesn't have to be an LS. I don't know anything better off the top of my head though.
I'll bet it could be done for much less than $30k
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Old 04-22-2016, 02:59 PM   #8913
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I'll bet it could be done for much less than $30k
Even better. I'm just estimating worst case. Because even worst case still sounds like a bargain. Even less than that and it makes too much sense to be a good idea, right?


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Yeah. The 2zz really lacks torque. Its done in MR2 spyders as well for the same reason and is OK imo. Though for the cost Id rather do a 3S or Previa V6 into the spyder
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Old 04-22-2016, 03:05 PM   #8915
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It's the whole balance between performance versus stability but I think I'm preaching to the choir. Yeah, I'm with you.
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I'm kinda curious why they bothered with it. Obviously it's cool but with drone technology it just seems like we don't have a reason to have manned aircraft anymore so just develop something that can perform even better than the f22(since pilot limitations don't need accounted for anymore)
Honestly I think the F22 project was started at a time when UAVs were meh at best.

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That doesn't answer the question. He's not on a computer. He must be going nuts.


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He keeps logging in but just doesn't say anything so can't be that insane yet.




Or just buy a Ferrari kit car and slap it on a domestic chassis. End result is the same. There is no such thing as a cheap old Ferrari.
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Yeah but they could have just not put them into production. I'm sure all the development will be useful but doesn't mean we should be buying hundreds of these things
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Well yeah... but we don't "need"pilots on the aircraft so if the f22 had been designed as a drone... how much better could it have been? Unless they are concerned about the signal being jammed or something and decided they still want pilots onboard. I really hope they considered this stuff before building them...
I hope they thought of other things as well.


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