Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Please refresh my memory (at least part of it - ), what type of business are you in?

humfrz

I work at FACSFAC SD, 24 hour 365 support for surface, air and sub surface navigation and training on range and in the socal oparea

my specialty involves Link architecture and range management with a sub responsibility in SAR coordination, and police action at deep sea.

[wolffbite]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

Is there a good way of teaching myself not to take work place project failures as a personal failure?

I tried to get fellow watch team members to unite under an idea of switching over muster times and the rotation for 24 hour support. and it got really close but then when our Chief put out a finite change date, all of a sudden people who I talked to had issues.

And i felt like it was a personal attack, when they opened their mouths. My first class and someone I've worked with prior to this scenerio told me to "not take it personally" and its okay for people to disagree, and its fine if it doesnt work. But keep trying

and Im tired. 10 years of trying and Im seeing the same sort of failures.


I guess this gets reflected over to the real world in tha tmost successful people have a long list of failures. but its hard to mentally assume that's okay for me

I struggle with this a lot. "Don't take it personally" is BS in my opinion, because if you are passionate at all about what you do there will be some degree of personal feelings attached to it. Maybe some people can disconnect entirely but I certainly can't.

Working in construction as a project manager, I can plan out a project perfectly only to have it go sideways because of a late shipment, a subtrade messing up on site, some bad weather etc... project management should really be called problem management.

I'm very solutions driven, so I try to approach delivering bad news or a conflict by already having prepared some potential solutions that will either fix or at least reduce the impact of that bad news.

It has gotten easier to deal with it over time (I've only been at it for 6 years) but I don't think i will ever be able to block off those personal feelings entirely.

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by wolffbite

I struggle with this a lot. "Don't take it personally" is BS in my opinion, because if you are passionate at all about what you do there will be some degree of personal feelings attached to it. Maybe some people can disconnect entirely but I certainly can't.

Working in construction as a project manager, I can plan out a project perfectly only to have it go sideways because of a late shipment, a subtrade messing up on site, some bad weather etc... project management should really be called problem management.

I'm very solutions driven, so I try to approach delivering bad news or a conflict by already having prepared some potential solutions that will either fix or at least reduce the impact of that bad news.

It has gotten easier to deal with it over time (I've only been at it for 6 years) but I don't think i will ever be able to block off those personal feelings entirely.

I think largely thats exactly where Ill end up
dad also calles it Problem management. Anytime you create a multi faceted project with room for huge errors, those errors will happen and its your plan on back up

One thing ive been challenging younger sailors to come to me with. is solutions for problems they have. instead of one sided griping.
one sailor who comes across as an arrogant bung hole. is actually extremely smart, but has alot on his personal plate between psychiatric and family issues.

I kind of dismissed his "problems" cause those are more need to know based, and counter asked him. you have this issue with work, what is your solution. and I heard it out. I asked him to condense it and put some sprinkles on it so it doesnt sound so much like a demand. and itll pass the higher chain.


people are so sensitive to how stuff is worded..

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

Is there a good way of teaching myself not to take work place project failures as a personal failure?

I tried to get fellow watch team members to unite under an idea of switching over muster times and the rotation for 24 hour support. and it got really close but then when our Chief put out a finite change date, all of a sudden people who I talked to had issues.

And i felt like it was a personal attack, when they opened their mouths. My first class and someone I've worked with prior to this scenerio told me to "not take it personally" and its okay for people to disagree, and its fine if it doesnt work. But keep trying

and Im tired. 10 years of trying and Im seeing the same sort of failures.


I guess this gets reflected over to the real world in tha tmost successful people have a long list of failures. but its hard to mentally assume that's okay for me

If you are not messing up the same thing over and over then it is not a failure, it is a lesson. I f'up all the time. Part of my job is R&D, and I break a lot of shit by accident.

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

If you are not messing up the same thing over and over then it is not a failure, it is a lesson. I f'up all the time. Part of my job is R&D, and I break a lot of shit by accident.

my favorite part of projects

purposefully trying to break stuff

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

my favorite part of projects

purposefully trying to break stuff

Only sometimes. And then sometimes you drop a handheld controller on top of a 52v lithium battery and get a spark and smoke show. Now I need a new controller at $1850 and the BMS replaced in the battery. Whoops.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

If you are not messing up the same thing over and over then it is not a failure, it is a lesson. I f'up all the time. Part of my job is R&D, and I break a lot of shit by accident.

I have made a very good living figuring out how people can fuck up and trying to prevent it. I have also done just as much work looking at how I missed something and had to figure out how to avoid it happening again.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

Is there a good way of teaching myself not to take work place project failures as a personal failure?

I struggle with this. Its extra hard because I'm a recovering perfectionist (you never get over it, but you get good at talking yourself off the ledge). And as often as not someone else is success with the same damn thing a few months later.

Here's the thing. If you're not failing, you're just waiting to die. Sometimes you won't fail, and the experience is amazing. Sometimes you discover someone else had a better idea anyway. But without trying, you can't succeed. And expecting failure should be the norm: expecting perfection is the alternative, and that's just not realistic.

In the mean time, don't feel bad about taking it personally. It probably isn't personal, and you'll get there. In the mean time, be curious about the exploration. What might you have done differently? What might you have overlooked? As long as you're approaching it with curiosity and not shame, you'll discover, learn, and do better with your next thing.

C

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

I'm trying to figure out how Amazon, who's major hub is almost literally in my backyard, managed to send my package to a completely different state. It originated at the facility less than 5 miles from my house but got sent hundreds of miles away for some reason.

I've had similar things happen. Isn't this usually because they'll try to cheap out and do some kind of bulk shipment first, but that means it has to go to a certain geographic hub before it'll be handed back off to the recipient's local courier?

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have made a very good living figuring out how people can fuck up and trying to prevent it. I have also done just as much work looking at how I missed something and had to figure out how to avoid it happening again.

A lot of things don't come to fruition because we can't make it safe, or make it serviceable.

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by spike021

I've had similar things happen. Isn't this usually because they'll try to cheap out and do some kind of bulk shipment first, but that means it has to go to a certain geographic hub before it'll be handed back off to the recipient's local courier?

I'm not sure. It's never happened to me before. But what I ordered was a scale for my potential business so I could see how much to charge for the shipping haha I was only going to announce costs after I knew for sure what shipping would look like. Now I'm two days behind.

[Sapphireho]

I made cookies today.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Time for that sweet body kit you always wanted..

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I don't think my wife would approve.

[Clutch Dog]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

I don't think my wife would approve.

Arra Castro

for you perverts out there